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Kstarek | 3 years ago

Because Google is playing catch up and needs to pay higher salaries to poach from MSFT and AMZN and also pay much more for infra than what Amazon paid for theirs initially.

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onlyrealcuzzo|3 years ago

IIUC, Google w/o cloud or YouTube handles more network requests, storage, and bandwidth than Amazon + AWS by a large margin.

They don't need to "catch up" on infra. They need to catch up on their product offering.

ra7|3 years ago

What does Google still need to catch up on in cloud? Building products/services? Sales? AFAIK, they have comparable cloud services to most AWS/Azure offerings.

colinmhayes|3 years ago

Mostly I think it’s just acquiring customers. The big cloud providers go to great lengths to lock their customers in, so convincing them to switch is hard. Requires a much better product which seems pretty much impossible against aws and azure or a much cheaper price.

levi-turner|3 years ago

From someone who does enterprise technical sales for a B2B company: Identity Management is a major area of concern for GCP / GSuite, at least in the enterprise space, especially for the low to moderately technical folks that I sell to. The same could be said for AWS but they have first mover advantage in many ways.

bamboozled|3 years ago

Trust for one thing. They just cut off customers services with line of recourse. Also shut down products with little warning.

Melatonic|3 years ago

They also offer insanely cheap deals to nonprofits and education for both GSuite (or whatever they call it these days) and GCP. Totally makes sense why they do it but I have to imagine its a huge loss on paper.

They also might be building more actual datacenters and doing so in a high end / environmentally friendly way whereas perhaps Amazon has already done a lot of those investments in previous years?

Godel_unicode|3 years ago

>… insanely cheap deals to nonprofits…

Amazon and Microsoft both do that as well.

fdgsdfogijq|3 years ago

Google has been "playing catch up" for a decade now. They also pay less than Amazon (source levels.fyi)

arebop|3 years ago

Google does not pay less than Amazon (source levels.fyi https://www.levels.fyi/?compare=Amazon,Google,Salesforce&tra...).

I have heard people claim that Amazon pays more and by that they mean that if you hold your Amazon stock until vesting, it appreciates so much that it ends up being worth more than whatever the Google grant would have been worth. But then you have to ask if the relative performance of the stocks will remain stable over time despite having changed recently, and factor in differences in employee churn and so on.

scottyah|3 years ago

From what I hear they paw software engineers less, but find it harder to attract sales personnel, as it’s easier to sell the industry leader (IBM, Oracle vs ???). No sources, just some posts a few months ago.