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The opposite, in fact. I used to be mostly neutral about war, but now I would consider myself a borderline pacifist. After studying this war and its causes, I realized that it was the consequence of geopolitical actors (including the defense industry) acting in certain ways over the last few decades. It is the kind of game where the only move is to not play.

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I understand - it seems like a rational position to me to a certain degree. But regardless of circumstances leading to the event, what do you think you would do if you saw murders and rape right on your doorstep? Honest question by the way - there are plenty of examples of pacifists standing up to violence following a pacifist ethos.

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I do think that a pacifist can stand up to violence, but I don’t think working in the defense industry is the way to do that.

The more wars I study, the more I realize the genius of MLK and Gandhi. Violence just begets violence.