[McBeige]

What type of discipline do you mean? The self discipline to behave in a way that enables you to live a good life? Or external discipline that makes you behave in a way (not necessarily a good way) out of fear of punishment?

Which of these are desirable?

Is it possible and efficient to instill the former using punishment?

[lapcat]

> The self discipline to behave in a way that enables you to live a good life?

Also, self-discipline tends to follow age. If punishing little kids helped, then why do kids often become terrors in their teens and twenties, then eventually grow up, mature, and become more responsible?

Of course some people never grow up, but many of them were smacked around as kids anyway.