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akatechis | 3 years ago

> Maybe then people will learn you don't get to sit there spouting blatant lies without consequence.

That is partly true. The ruling class gets to lie with impunity whenever they want, for profit or power. Remember WMDs in Iraq? And Iran has been "6 months away from a nuclear bomb" for the past 50 years.

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DaiPlusPlus|3 years ago

> The ruling class

Who, exactly, are you referring to with nonspecific language like that?

boomboomsubban|3 years ago

>And Iran has been "6 months away from a nuclear bomb" for the past 50 years.

To be fair, that statement has always been "if Iran seriously tried to build a nuclear bomb, it'd take them roughly six months to do so."

That is probably fairly true, but they've constantly lied about how serious Iran has ever been about building a nuke while using the statement stoke fears.

AlwaysRock|3 years ago

Why do you think Iran is just toying with the idea of building a nuke? Doesnt it make sense that if they had the capacity, or if they had the capacity to make one in 6 months, that they would?

For 50 years Iran rules have been on the fence?

wing-_-nuts|3 years ago

To be fair, they're probably going the israeli route and have 'turn key' nukes. No way they don't have enough highly enriched material for a bomb or two by now. It's just not in their interest to advertise it.

300bps|3 years ago

The ruling class gets to lie with impunity whenever they want

You seem to be parroting the exact thing that Alex Jones said in his video responding to the $4.2 million verdict. It's simple Whataboutism.

The fact is, people's children were murdered. He created and spread a conspiracy theory that the entire event was fake, and that the parents of the murdered children participated in the conspiracy.

He admits he was wrong. He admits he did harm to the parents. A jury found he was liable for $4.2 million in compensatory damages. We'll see what the punitive damages end up being soon.

In the meantime, talking about lies that other people have done doesn't take away from his reprehensible actions.

dominotw|3 years ago

> It's simple Whataboutism.

No its not in this context because GP responded to a comment that said this will teach people about general principle of 'lying = bad'. GP responded with 'it won't because ..' .

Context here isn't alex jones at all. Its wether this a general teaching moment for 'people' about dangers of lying.

throwaway0a5e|3 years ago

If Jones can't run his mouth without financial repercussions then politicians shouldn't be able to run theirs either and their PACs shouldn't be able to run those stupid lying ads.

It's not whataboutism. It's complaining about inequality under the law.

The lesson being learned here isn't "don't lie". It's "don't lie unless you're one of the more equal animals"