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kory | 3 years ago

The YIMBYs want to move to your neighborhood, so you and your neighbors are obligated to make as much space for them as needed. Oh, you like your neighborhood how it is?

Don't worry, you'll learn to love <relying on public transport instead of cars, no parking, increased traffic, blocked out sunlight, tiny and eventually no yards, large buildings next door>. Your way of living is bad because cars and sprawl are bad and YIMBYs don't like them, they think the walkable urban mixed use neighborhoods are superior, so we're going to remove the zoning to force change. Aren't those things what you want?

No? Well you'll learn to like them, because you shouldn't have power over what your neighbor can build on their property. You say your neighborhood overwhelmingly votes to keep it that way, not just you? Actually, your neighborhood shouldn't have power to vote for this zoning either, because we know what's best for your neighborhood, not you.

This is how every argument with a YIMBY goes.

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mechagodzilla|3 years ago

You and your neighbors aren't obligated to make as much space for them as needed, you just shouldn't have the power to stop people that would like to make space for them. Zoning changes don't obligate someone to sell their house and build a duplex, they just let someone do that if they want to.

kory|3 years ago

Zoning laws make sure a community stays as the community desires. A community bans large apartment buildings for the same reason they ban power plants; construction benefits the property owner at the detriment of adjacent property owners.

BirdieNZ|3 years ago

The NIMBYs don't want to let me build what I want on my own land.

kory|3 years ago

Then move somewhere that does let you build it. Your local community has made a decision to disallow whatever it is you want to construct.

codefreeordie|3 years ago

More or less, yes. They declare themselves to be the only authority on how land should be used, despite not owning any or living there at all.

shaburn|3 years ago

You left out morality attacks and disregarding decades of legal contracts and legislation that created the value they often want to pillage.

kory|3 years ago

I intentionally left out YIMBY moral grandstanding, because it's usually a shield to hide the real reason they feel zoning should be changed: "I can't afford your neighborhood and I want to live there"