[catwind7]

formalized expression is detail and while that detail may not be complex for a programmer it can be completely meaningless to a user. I agree with you in part but i think worth recognizing that if we all had this attitude then we wouldn't be building business applications / consumer apps for non-developers

whether you think it's complex or not, we're hiding information on procedural tasks from users in the products we build because information to someone who is not a programmer IS complex