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diogenes1 | 3 years ago

one of the most shameful moments in digital human rights after the arrest of pgp creator in 1993. Code is speech, it is not a weapon. Banning maths is fascist

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jeroenhd|3 years ago

You can call it money laundering speech if you want, but that doesn't change the fact money laundering is illegal. Selling skimming services is illegal even if you don't skim people yourself.

Nobody is banning technology or math, only specific, usually criminal, uses of technology and math are banned.

tzs|3 years ago

> Banning maths is fascist

What about banning chemistry and physics? If I fire a gun and the bullet hits someone I get arrested (and maybe even if it doesn't hit anyone if I am somewhere were shooting guns is not illegal), yet all I did was use some levers (physics) to add compress a spring adding potential energy to it (physics) which then got converted to kinetic energy (Hooke's law, more physics), which imparted energy to some chemicals starting a reaction (chemistry) that produced expanding gases that caused the bullet to rapidly leave the barrel of the gun, where it followed a ballistic trajectory (physics).

Or what about banning biology? Look closely at other animals sometimes. Things that in humans we'd call rape and murder and robbery are quite common. Millions of years of evolution have selected for animals that do those things. Humans too have the same propensity to do many of those same things, and would do so more often if they were not illegal. Just look at what happens when people find themselves in situations where those laws do not apply or where they have no chance of being punished, such as when a country successfully invades another country.

diogenes1|3 years ago

you fired the gun, not the manufacturer. why would they arrest the manufacturer/inventor/etc for something that was done by you?

diogenes1|3 years ago

even more shameful is the tone of conversation regarding this in internet forums now vs in 1993. How the hell can you be pro arrest of developers

codehalo|3 years ago

The opinions being expressed regarding cryptography, cryptocurrencies, freedom, and privacy has been absolutely depressing. The state and corporations have exerted their influence, particularly in the last fifteen years or so.

dannyw|3 years ago

People don't seem to realize that there is little fundamental distinction between a crypto privacy service, and encrypted messaging apps like Signal and matrix.

A bitcoin private key is just "KwTHJw865SLeTAjK7otYb5bL5mwutBb2vDxxF7kGf5XvY7QttnvM" after all.

pjc50|3 years ago

I don't think the cryptobros realise quite how much they've made the general forum public hate them, which is why everyone's cheering this arrest.