I like Tauri and the fact that it's written in Rust, but I do wonder just how tiny these apps are when it's still using webviews, even if they're system webviews and not Chrome instances like Electron. I would have liked to see something more akin to a native rendering framework like Flutter (native as in bare metal, non webviews, not native as in native OS elements).
However, it does seem quite hard to do if there's not a dedicated team just for developing such a GUI framework. raphlinus [0] has some great knowledge about this that I've read from his blog posts, such as his most recent one, Advice for the next dozen Rust GUIs [2]. In my opinion, the Flutter-like approach is the way to go if you want to get good performance without webviews, have a consistent user experience across platforms, and be able to write once and deploy everywhere.
The “bare metal” approach (which in practice would be something like GL, right?) is good for games, but is it good for apps?
Ideally you want something that uses the host’s UI conventions, works correctly with keyboard shortcuts, uses accessibility APIs, can drag-and-drop with other apps, etc. Using a DOM UI will get you a lot of that without too much effort. Using a WebGL UI won’t.
> from 1.6GB average down to 72MB average.
Thanks, that the exact metric about "tiny" that i was looking for.
if that's the general ballpark that we can expect then it looks promising. i wonder how it's scaling with bigger applications (like slack)
I am using Tauri + Preact [0] for a private project. It's wonderful.
With Preact + htm [1], I can have a really complex UI, that still feels snappy, without having to deal with webpack or any other build pipeline (after all, it is a hobby project and therefore should spark joy).
The backend is entirely written in Rust.
I did some electron apps before, and I have to say, Tauri really feels snappier.
In addition to React/Vue, you have the ability to use Rust client-side frameworks such as Yew[0] or seed[1] for a truly full-stack Rust experience. I've been using Tauri + Yew to build an cross-platform app (shameless plug: [2]) and it's been a pleasure. There are some rough edges, but most of those have been due to platform specific issues (notifications, Windows vs Unix paths, etc.) and not Tauri/Yew itself.
Even accounting for the webview (on windows at least) it’s still a really substantial improvement. I only did a toy test so I have to do something more substantial, but I’m impressed enough to try it out on something a little bigger.
[+] [-] cercatrova|3 years ago|reply
However, it does seem quite hard to do if there's not a dedicated team just for developing such a GUI framework. raphlinus [0] has some great knowledge about this that I've read from his blog posts, such as his most recent one, Advice for the next dozen Rust GUIs [2]. In my opinion, the Flutter-like approach is the way to go if you want to get good performance without webviews, have a consistent user experience across platforms, and be able to write once and deploy everywhere.
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=raphlinus
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31297653
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32112846
[+] [-] iainmerrick|3 years ago|reply
Ideally you want something that uses the host’s UI conventions, works correctly with keyboard shortcuts, uses accessibility APIs, can drag-and-drop with other apps, etc. Using a DOM UI will get you a lot of that without too much effort. Using a WebGL UI won’t.
[+] [-] PhantomBKB|3 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] devmor|3 years ago|reply
The documentation is still a bit lacking, otherwise I think it'd have gone much easier.
On the positive side, their memory footprint has indeed decreased by hundreds of MB, in one case from 1.6GB average down to 72MB average.
[+] [-] Szpadel|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] graboid|3 years ago|reply
The backend is entirely written in Rust.
I did some electron apps before, and I have to say, Tauri really feels snappier.
[0] https://preactjs.com/
[1] https://github.com/developit/htm
[+] [-] andrew_|3 years ago|reply
Edit:
Ah, Svelte is supported, just omitted from the HN title: https://github.com/tauri-apps/tauri/blob/dev/tooling/cli/tem...
[+] [-] slyall|3 years ago|reply
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31764015 ( 238 comments, 2 months ago )
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29807022 ( 419 comments, 7 months ago )
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26194990 ( 417 comments, 1 year ago )
[+] [-] dang|3 years ago|reply
Tauri 1.0 – Electron Alternative Powered by Rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31764015 - June 2022 (238 comments)
Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29807022 - Jan 2022 (419 comments)
Tauri: Rust-based Electron alternative releases beta - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27155831 - May 2021 (168 comments)
Tauri: An Electron alternative written in Rust - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26194990 - Feb 2021 (417 comments)
Creating Tiny Desktop Apps with Tauri and Vue.js - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23862634 - July 2020 (2 comments)
Tauri – toolchain for building secure native apps that have tiny binaries - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23769424 - July 2020 (116 comments)
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[+] [-] a5huynh|3 years ago|reply
[0] https://yew.rs/
[1] https://github.com/seed-rs/seed
[2] https://github.com/a5huynh/spyglass - Create your own personal search engine by crawling & indexing files/docs/websites that you want.
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