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12many | 3 years ago

"friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it?

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JeremyNT|3 years ago

> "friendly people" but also "hateful racist trumpers"? Well which is it?

Another native Carolinian chiming in here (from NC, but similar).

These people are friendly if you "pass" as one of them. Be white, wear a trucker cap, don't dress up too fancy, use a southern accent (or at least, don't talk too pretty), don't be gay, don't say a damn thing about politics or religion. Don't drive a Prius or something. You're good to go. If you are careful enough they might even occasionally start confiding in you, and expect you to agree with them, about their casually racist views. If you reach this point, you can get by with just not saying anything, and the conversation will usually evolve to other less difficult matters.

You can violate these rules, of course, but you need to be able to "pass" by compensating in other ways. So if you do wear a suit and drive a Tesla, you could make up for it if you have a good southern accent or go to church or proudly espouse your conservative values in some other way (carry a sidearm, maybe).

Also, my people will sometimes act nice to you even if they hate you. If you're here a while you will learn to recognize it. Southern "hospitality" is incredibly superficial - there's a thin veneer. If you don't look too closely, and you don't care too much about what they really think of you (because really, they're mostly harmless - unless you need something from them), you will be OK.

... unless you have kids. Please don't send kids to public schools in the rural white south if you or they are even vaguely progressive.

Akronymus|3 years ago

Imagine if a racist republican texan moved into your neighbourhood because his choices of policies resulted in the decline of his neighbourhood. And he keeps voting for those same policies. Wouldn't you be reserved or even hostile to that person?

nus07|3 years ago

You do have similar folks in rural Oregon or rural Idaho too . Have you been to Klamath Falls, OR ? If you do have to compare you would probably make a direct comparison to say Athens, GA or Research Triangle, NC . IMO this country already has a huge divide between rural and urban populations no matter which state you are in. Educated college towns are the hidden gems for anyone looking to escape 1m dollar Bay Area houses.

throwaway_4ever|3 years ago

> Also, my people will sometimes act nice to you even if they hate you. If you're here a while you will learn to recognize it.

"Bless your heart"

whoknew1122|3 years ago

You could've been describing Texas, too.

12many|3 years ago

>"if you 'pass' as one them.."

From my point of view you just described the left.

Dressing in a suit and tie is not a rarity in the south or rural areas. Being gay isn't some attribute that qualifies for special treatment just because of your sexual preference. Politics also isn't some defining feature, and is WAY too publicized in today's culture. Why does it matter what someone's political view points are? Does that make them less than you, and are they really racist or is it because you don't agree? Because conservatives think democrats are racist for implying POCs aren't capable of doing things themselves. Maybe southern hospitality is superficial in some southerners but at least its some kind of hospitality, have you been to any major city? They'll let you bleed out before calling for help.

strikelaserclaw|3 years ago

I mean, by large most people in most places in USA are friendly/neutral, since most of the people in SC are conservative, the brand of hate you get from the crazies is of the trump/maga/racist flavor. Where as in liberal areas, you'd probably get a different sort of hate.

ziddoap|3 years ago

I imagine they are referring to different people, not one single person who is both.

Naritai|3 years ago

More like 'friendly to perceived in-group, not friendly to perceived outsiders'

antifa|3 years ago

I looked up the stats of SC and noticed that more than one person lives there.

the_only_law|3 years ago

In my experience, the south is caricaturized and somewhat overblown, both the good parts and the bad parts.

garciasn|3 years ago

Live in Minnesota. Plenty of liberals, but 'friendly' Minnesotans are not. I vacation every year on Hilton Head in South Carolina--although, with many transplants and vacationers from what I assume are wealthy liberal areas, it's not anywhere near a haven for political cultists. That said, the people are GENUINELY more friendly and will strike up active conversation, want to hang out again, etc; whereas, in Minnesota, it's incredibly difficult to talk with someone more than about the weather.

That's what they mean, I'd assume.

paxys|3 years ago

Why can't it be both?