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riolu | 3 years ago

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tazu|3 years ago

> Blatant transphobia. If we applied your argument to r/conservative, it would be child grooming to become a racist school shooter.

Here's a post from within a week I found in a few minutes[1] with the top-comment being "The pipeline" about a 16 year old (minor). This is child-grooming. And if /r/conservative has a "pipeline", it's child-grooming too. Children shouldn't be encouraged in making major life decisions by internet strangers, period.

> Then you aren't Googling correctly. Once you are an expert in a field you will realize how much reddit gets wrong and the most upvoted solution can be completely incorrect.

You must not Google much. Appending "reddit" to Google search queries has been a solid strategy for years. I'm not alone. Check the top comment on this post titled "Google Search Is Dying"[2].

> Your reddit experience is entirely up to what you subscribe to. I imagine your experience is just misogyny.

Your imagination is wrong. My "experience" is /r/all which is no different than MSNBC or CNN, aka US astro-turfed media, which you conveniently avoided replying to. Reddit puts on a strong front as a "global link aggregator" but in reality it's just a heavily censored trash pile that bans anything anti-Saudi, anti-Israel, or anti-child-grooming (anti-US-trends).

An entire subreddit dedicated to castrating young people. How progressive.

[1]: https://reddit.com/r/egg_irl/comments/wm4gll/_/ijx51di/?cont...

[2]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30348204

hemogloben|3 years ago

The egg_irl post you picked. Sigh. Picking apart meme content and comments is stupid. But sure, lets do this to support this 'child grooming' nonsense transphobic discussion.

What you're criticizing isn't someone making a major life decision based on feedback from internet strangers. Its a person who has made a major life decision reflecting and joking about the experience in a space assumed to be for trans people trying to deal with (via jokes and memes) the overwhelming hatred they've dealt with.

A) this is clearly a stupid meme post that IN THE MEME itself indicates the person is no longer 16 (in fact if you look at post history they're now at college so > 18).

B) was responded to with a meme in an of itself. The idea of an LGBTQ+ pipeline is well known to LGBTQ+ people. Yes they'll make fun of it in response to a meme post. In ACTUAL discussion, they will earnestly discuss that transitioning isn't for everyone; don't stop because of other people, but also if you're not comfortable or transitioning isn't make you happy, you learned something about yourself (you might not be trans).

But to put a fine point on it: Telling children that they have options for self-expression besides the default gender binary isn't child-grooming. Full stop. And in marginalized communities, you may only have internet strangers to deal with (if your family/friends or local community have no safe spaces). Obviously, for such a large decision you should be working with a therapist (if there's a non-transphobic therapist in your area AND you can afford it/its available) to work through this rather than internet strangers; and that is OFTEN discussed. No one is under the impression that these are small decisions. They're just demanding that they be understood as VALID decisions.

But to boil down a trans-support group (with your 'I call it how I see it'/'won't somebody think of the children' type bullshit) as 'castrating young people' means that you're not as logical / unbiased as you think you are, you clearly DON'T know what you're talking about, AND, as the OP stated, you are transphobic.

7speter|3 years ago

Whats funny is that 12 or however many years ago digg was practically demolished for taking down that blu ray encryption code but now all the censorship and astroturfing on reddit is absolutely fine as long as it confirms peoples’ biases. I’ve given up on r/all and just use r/home, even though its top5 results aggressively suggest you keep going back to the last 2 subs you visited.

jbm|3 years ago

Putting the rest of your comment aside;

> the most upvoted solution can be completely incorrect

This is correct. The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page; it gives you the lay of the land an an idea of what people believe, which is surprisingly valuable.

Akronymus|3 years ago

For me, reddit and wikipedia are mostly for seeing that something happened/getting me the right keywords to dig in further myself.

riolu|3 years ago

> The value you get from a good Reddit conversation is like a good Wikipedia page

Reddit cannot be compared to wikipedia. It's social media vs an internet encyclopedia. Wikipedia does not allow opinions.