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Crysstalis | 3 years ago
Because it needs special support in the window manager. At that point it is the same as what Wayland is doing except it still has all the other flaws of X11 and it will break when someone wants to disable compositing or use another old window manager. As for the other parts, those would technically work, and it already does work like that for the most part. Most programs that can do DPI scaling do already have a way to scale themselves. But that is not a good experience for users, the point of it working seamlessly is to have support for it built into the window manager.
>Then i suggest making better effort towards understanding what others write or at least ask clarifications
There are no clarifications to ask, you are repeating the same comments that get posted all the time. Keep in mind these are the type of comments that you can see repeated very often:
"I have no problem, it works on my hardware"
"It is not a problem because I personally prefer it this way"
"Just try to fix the problem yourself by tweaking these developer settings (config files, environment variables, etc) and hoping it works"
If your comment follows this pattern then I would say just avoid making that comment, it is not moving the discussion forward. I think you can agree, when building these systems the goal is to get something that is usable out of the box for everyone. So these comments do not "move the needle" towards that, these are just reinforcing the current status quo.
badsectoracula|3 years ago
But it also does not rely on Wayland and all the flaws it has - after all my point was about being possible on X11, not about Wayland. Wayland had nothing to do with the post i wrote.
> But that is not a good experience for users, the point of it working seamlessly is to have support for it built into the window manager.
Yes, which is exactly what i wrote in my original message: "Window manager support for some common messages/hints (ala EWMH) so that the window manager is responsible for telling applications how to scale would improve things".
> There are no clarifications to ask, you are repeating the same comments that get posted all the time [...] If your comment follows this pattern then I would say just avoid making that comment
I suggest try to actual read what people are writing instead of trying to pattern match answers to whatever you think the poster is writing. This may also help understand what i write in my other replies about backwards compatibility.
Crysstalis|3 years ago
Well my point was that it will always be an inferior experience on X11 even though it technically is possible in some circumstance. WM hints only work correctly if the window manager is compositing which many window managers are not, or do not want to add, and some X11 users still seem to insist on not using them... Any attempts to add this to X11 are fighting an uphill battle.
>I suggest try to actual read what people are writing
I did and I believe those replies are following those patterns. Those comments seem unrelated to the other things about backwards compatibility. It is an entirely separate concern.