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Crysstalis | 3 years ago

>Thinking "for a fact" that users will do something is a perfect way to make several of them unhappy when they want to do something else :-P.

My point is those users will be unhappy anyway, they choose to break their own system. There is little reason to try to accommodate them further. The alternative is always going to be don't use that WM or don't have scaling support. It is not superior as you are always faced with this choice. That is the choice you get when you want to use legacy apps and WMs which is the only real reason to still be using X11.

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badsectoracula|3 years ago

> My point is those users will be unhappy anyway, they choose to break their own system.

That is a very "i know what is good for the users better than them" stance.

> The alternative is always going to be don't use that WM or don't have scaling support. It is not superior as you are always faced with this choice.

It is (or can be) superior when taking the entirety of the environment into account, not just the particular "scaling vs not scaling" support. It shouldn't really be that hard to understand that someone might prefer to stick with a window manager (or other program) because they like its overall UX despite not having a perfect solution for some particular problem, right?

Crysstalis|3 years ago

I understand that, but what you are doing by making that choice is actually choosing to make those other problems your problem. Maybe they do not affect you, but they are still there, so the "solution" can hardly be called superior or even a solution at all. It just is something that does not affect you. Taking the entirety of the environment would consider all apps and all options that could possibly be used, I bet you can see how that would quickly become a bad situation that the users almost certainly do not know better than the developers how to handle. By definition, if a user is only focusing on their specific apps in a very strict and controlled situation, they actually cannot know what is the best overall choice.