Out of curiosity, why does being an immigrant make you lean towards conservatism? You realize one of the biggest conservative talking points in the past 4 years is how immigrants are “stealing” their jobs?
Not the comment author you replied to, but I didn't read it as 'I immigrated, therefore it infers I'm conservative". Rather I read it as they were stating two independent facts about themselves.
On the topic of the 'Talking Point' you're referring to. I don't know anyone who has voiced concern with legal immigration (I live in predominately conservative area). I will agree illegal immigration is a talking point.
Conservatives aren't a monolithic voting bloc, unlike what the media tells you.
There are conservatives who are okay with legal and high skilled/high paid immigration (which I am one). No one is stealing highly paid, trading, fintech, programming jobs, with above $200k/year salary here.
I can confidently say that ALL (100%) of conservatives, are not in favor of illegal immigration, and not in favor of low skilled immigration.
Some other points that conservatives are (some of these are libertarian, but conservatives and libertarian often have similar interests), which are aligned with me:
- Economy matters, bring back local jobs, bring back local manufacturing
- Small government, less government spending, less taxes for useless government spending, less wars, less meddling with other countries problem
- Personal freedom and responsibilities
- Self sufficiency
- No to unrestricted abortion
- No to stimulus checks
- No to constant lockdown
- No to UBI
- No to student loan forgiveness
- We can define what is a woman and what is a man
- No to defund the police
- All Lives Matter, including Asian and White lives
A lot of immigrants actually have the same interests aligned with conservatives, based on the points above.
I think immigrants know firsthand how it feels like to:
- Have incompetent government, corrupt government, corrupt media
- Have freeloaders everywhere taking advantage of the system, we are here to work, to make money, not to support those who don't
- Have violence on the street as a result of police have no teeth
- Asian immigrants, experience bias in not being hired/accepted into school, due to Affirmative Action and Diversity Inclusion practice. Asian immigrants on average, economically, actually less better than Blacks
So we don't want the countries where we immigrate to, to avoid the problems in the first place, to have the problems we want to avoid.
Immigrants also, prefer traditional gender/sex in society. Doesn't mean that woman can't be a plumber, sure they can. We just don't prefer gender fluidity/spectrum to be taught in schools to our children. The reason being, it introduces weakness to the population. Man should be strong, independent (not talking about toxic masculinity), and woman also have very important roles in society. Gender fluidity/spectrum contributes to confusion and undermines the future of the population. That's not to say we don't have trans in our society. We do, and we are okay with that, but they have to play by the rules of the majority. They can't go into man's bahtroom if they are born woman, and vice versa. They can't join woman's sports if they are born man. We are also not okay to make it normalized in school and getting shoved on it by the media.
There is way too much to unpack in this comment, so I'll just laser focus on how incredible it is that you somehow managed to rationalize "we are ok with trans people existing" and "they should live by the rules of the majority, not how they want to live" as two non-conflicting statements, when they are so very obviously contradictory. If there is a condition attached to a group of people existing, then you're not really ok with their existance.
tmn|3 years ago
On the topic of the 'Talking Point' you're referring to. I don't know anyone who has voiced concern with legal immigration (I live in predominately conservative area). I will agree illegal immigration is a talking point.
immigrantheart|3 years ago
There are conservatives who are okay with legal and high skilled/high paid immigration (which I am one). No one is stealing highly paid, trading, fintech, programming jobs, with above $200k/year salary here.
I can confidently say that ALL (100%) of conservatives, are not in favor of illegal immigration, and not in favor of low skilled immigration.
Some other points that conservatives are (some of these are libertarian, but conservatives and libertarian often have similar interests), which are aligned with me:
- Economy matters, bring back local jobs, bring back local manufacturing
- Small government, less government spending, less taxes for useless government spending, less wars, less meddling with other countries problem
- Personal freedom and responsibilities
- Self sufficiency
- No to unrestricted abortion
- No to stimulus checks
- No to constant lockdown
- No to UBI
- No to student loan forgiveness
- We can define what is a woman and what is a man
- No to defund the police
- All Lives Matter, including Asian and White lives
A lot of immigrants actually have the same interests aligned with conservatives, based on the points above.
I think immigrants know firsthand how it feels like to:
- Have incompetent government, corrupt government, corrupt media
- Have freeloaders everywhere taking advantage of the system, we are here to work, to make money, not to support those who don't
- Have violence on the street as a result of police have no teeth
- Asian immigrants, experience bias in not being hired/accepted into school, due to Affirmative Action and Diversity Inclusion practice. Asian immigrants on average, economically, actually less better than Blacks
So we don't want the countries where we immigrate to, to avoid the problems in the first place, to have the problems we want to avoid.
Immigrants also, prefer traditional gender/sex in society. Doesn't mean that woman can't be a plumber, sure they can. We just don't prefer gender fluidity/spectrum to be taught in schools to our children. The reason being, it introduces weakness to the population. Man should be strong, independent (not talking about toxic masculinity), and woman also have very important roles in society. Gender fluidity/spectrum contributes to confusion and undermines the future of the population. That's not to say we don't have trans in our society. We do, and we are okay with that, but they have to play by the rules of the majority. They can't go into man's bahtroom if they are born woman, and vice versa. They can't join woman's sports if they are born man. We are also not okay to make it normalized in school and getting shoved on it by the media.
Kaze404|3 years ago