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whitewingjek | 3 years ago

> NOTE: The printer only works with original HP toner refill kits. If original HP toner is not installed in the printer, the printer will not work as expected.

Still vendor locked. Rather just stick with something you can refill yourself.

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andrewia|3 years ago

Looking at the manual, the toner refill kit is entirely passive and has no electrical contacts or other authentication. That's just verbage to scare you into buying their refill kit instead of the inevitable generic version.

nebula8804|3 years ago

Mixing different toner particle sizes and compounds has ended in complete disaster for me in the past. I recall mixing and matching OEM with third party and then the toner not sticking to the paper properly. Guess where it goes if the toner does not end up on the paper and the printer thinks it did? It starts accumulating in the printer leading to a total disaster because now the printer never worked right after that.

Now I just buy my OEM toner used on eBay. Thats the secret. Find a semi new somewhat popular business class printer and keep an eye out for companies offloading their unused OEM toner.

solardev|3 years ago

> the toner refill kit is entirely passive and has no electrical contacts or other authentication

Yet.

scohesc|3 years ago

I wonder how they could tell though - Maybe the refill bottles themselves have electrical contacts and that's how they serialize the refills? Once it's been dumped into the printer, they burn an efuse on the refill so it's now useless to anybody?

Seems like more waste than anything.

function_seven|3 years ago

My uninformed guess is an RFID tag in each refill bag. The printer will scan for Genuine Authorized Original Virtuous Toner, and only then allow the fill port to open. Once open you have one hour before that tag ID is burned and can't be used further.

Or maybe you need to use the app and do this? (https://ssl-product-images.www8-hp.com/pub/msc/C26A0B64-54DB...)

Whatever the mechanism, reviews are not good: https://www.hp.com/us-en/shop/pdp/hp-143a-black-original-nev...

grishka|3 years ago

Seems like an interesting reverse engineering project.

tengwar2|3 years ago

I can't speak for this printer, but I have an HP Neverstop 1001NW which uses a similar tank-based system. The container of toner that came with it appeared to be entirely dumb.

waynesonfire|3 years ago

uhh.. or maybe just chemistry? you can fill the tank with urine if you want but YMMV.