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insanejudge | 3 years ago

I mean, they say they're a libertarian (and other libertarians are fake libertarians, which is possibly the most libertarian thing to say) and expressed agreement with the culture war issues like the "death of men" so the comfort zone sounded more like being around a crowd like that. There are loads of different PTSD support groups (veterans, service industry workers, family trauma, just flat out for men) to the extent you almost need to willfully choose to seek out a domestic/SA group where they aren't comfortable with men.

Otherwise it read like a pretty run of the mill review of the politicans' public personalities plus some "centrist" appeals to the golden mean fallacy which are generally used as a pry bar to keep stretching the overton window to the right. Should we engage libertarian age of consent abolitionists for the good of open discourse and reach for 'not a black-or-white' answer there?

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Test0129|3 years ago

> so the comfort zone sounded more like being around a crowd like that

For what it's worth the "culture war issues" aren't a left vs. right issue anymore. The people in the middle, realistically the swing voters, are beginning to express concerns at how quickly discourse is crumbling under various regimes of speech control. It takes nothing but a trivial Google to see how many news articles are now writing about this.

To assert "culture war" is a far-right view is really a strawman. A lot of Americans who don't involve themselves in the extremes are concerned about the degradation of even mundane discourse in the US.

Your final paragraph

> Should we engage libertarian age of consent abolitionists for the good of open discourse and reach for 'not a black-or-white' answer there?

Is set up to be a perfect strawman. In otherwords, you're saying (without saying) "these libertarian pedophiles shouldn't be engaged". Very dishonest to associate an entire group of (most likely unrelated) people with an extreme fringe of the libertarian party in order to make an underhanded shot at conservative viewpoints in general.

> There are loads of different PTSD support groups (veterans, service industry workers, family trauma, just flat out for men) to the extent you almost need to willfully choose to seek out a domestic/SA group where they aren't comfortable with men.

Specifically targeting PTSD will capture veterans, police, firefighters, etc. Primarily male dominated fields. Men are over twice as likely to be without help in almost any domestic issue. There are more homeless men than women. Many (almost a majority) of these homeless are veterans. This is well known, and to be so dismissive of it is more telling of your own political bias than the truth of the matter.