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workingon | 3 years ago

This conversation seems sort of unnecessary to me as a researcher who uses AI. Symbols and DL are not exclusive, just not yet thoroughly studied, I guess this is more of an argument about the semantic positioning of a few people in the field who think they are important. Some of the best current research in the DL space involves defining and searching for governing equations with symbolic matching.

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zmgsabst|3 years ago

Also, there’s a deep relationship between DL and symbolic reasoning:

The tensor networks in DL end up looking really similar to tensor representations of the diagrams equivalent to a type theory — down to convolutions being a way to “type” data in an input.

We’re just now exploring that, but this may be another case of “algebra-geometry equivalence” with DL giving us a differential/geometric interpretation and symbolic reasoning giving us an algebraic interpretation.

XuMiao|3 years ago

Algebra geometry view makes sense to me. Considering ML as a learning to approximate scheme algorithm. Tensor representation is similar to the SDP trick achieving the optimal max-sat approximation. The difference is that DL approximates from inside of the high dimensional space (concave) while SDP approximates from outside (convex). The later one turns into polynomial algorithm, but the former one remains NP-hard. The success of DL just proved that there is a long way to go for P equals NP. Whenever we figure that out, symbolic approach and Tensor approach will merge.

fatherzine|3 years ago

Whoa! Would you happen to have a link to some material that fleshes this intuition out with some examples?