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13 points| redthrow | 3 years ago

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Angostura|3 years ago

"Is this just a sinister way to generate more sales?".

This is a problem that primarily effects people who difficulty unlocking activation lock because

(a) they have forgotten their icloud password AND don't have access to the linked e-mail account any more AND don't have access to the associated phone number any more AND don't have original proof or purchase

or

(b) They stole your phone.

I think Apple's solution is reasonable

csydas|3 years ago

I agree, I cannot really take the more malicious interpretation seriously if the premise of the lock is to render theft useless and ensure data security/privacy even in any situation.

I would be more sympathetic to the argument if it did not propose a sinister motive. My interpretation of the concern is mostly that the current system makes reselling Apple devices difficult, which is understandably frustrating for refurbishers/resellers of older devices.

Regrettably there is an intersection of reselling such devices and reselling stolen devices, and I think the intersection cannot be removed.

The return of the lock-status site would be good however, as it would at least allow legitimate resale participants to both be able to act with full information; I can imagine a social engineering attack here, but at the end of the day I don't think Apple should be help responsible to that degree, and I think sufficiently concise warnings about the process and multiple confirmations with additional information on what the result of the process will be should be enough.

I actually don't have a lot of sympathy towards the situation of IT Departments that have users moving in/out with such devices, as this is a fairly documented aspect of Apple devices for some time, and I believe Apple's Managed Apple IDs addresses this, but I have not personally used it so I can't speak in full confidence here. Apple's document would lead me to believe that this is the intended solution that these organizations are not using [0], as such devices don't give users access to the Find my Device feature, I understand this to be controlled by the IT administrator.

I do understand the video's point, but I don't think they make a compelling argument here except for the fact that it requires more work for them and previous sources for refurbished devices are unreliable now.

0 - https://support.apple.com/hr-hr/guide/apple-business-manager...

DavideNL|3 years ago

Clickbait title...

There are many things i hate about Apple (and most big-tech companies in general) but this is not one of them.