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fdomig | 3 years ago

Living in Germany I can add: Yes, shutting down nuclear power plants "so early" was naive, however, even the now horrible war in Ukraine boosts the process to migrate to (more) sustainable energy even faster. Also, pretty soon energy prices in Germany might be so much lower and this will be a key advantage.

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uniqueuid|3 years ago

Also: The war in Ukraine shows what a security liability nuclear plants are in wartime.

kaba0|3 years ago

What security vulnerabilities are they in wartime? Especially when Germany is a NATO member, so basically any war against Germany would result in WW3, where nuclear power plants will be the least of your problem.

_ea1k|3 years ago

Which, in what is surely a coincidence, is good for Russia.

seydor|3 years ago

or gas pipelines

or food imports

can't go back to the age of empires, sorry

the_cramer|3 years ago

I am not sure if these lower costs are ever projected onto the end users. the energy prices weren't lowered since ~2000

tmikaeld|3 years ago

As long as most of the wind-mill and solar components are manufactured in China, it's difficult to call it "sustainable".

dubbel|3 years ago

You are right about solar panels being built in China, but windmill components are usually built in local factories, because they are very hard to transport.

You might call the dominance of the Chinese solar manufacturers a national security risk, but as long as we have the knowledge and resources to theoretically build them in the West (albeit more expensively), they are easier to replace than for example Saudi-Arabian oil or Russian natural gas.

mbeex|3 years ago

> Also, pretty soon energy prices in Germany might be so much lower

Jürgen Trittin (2004): Eine Kugel Eis... (costs for "Energiewende" )

There is the infamous saying, "Fusion is always twenty years ahead." But renewables seem to be trying hard to live up to that saying (AND getting more expensive along the way)

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/13020/umfrage...