[yeeyeeyee]

The famous story about Charlie Parker:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Parker

>His attempt to improvise failed when he lost track of the chord changes. This prompted Jo Jones, the drummer for Count Basie's Orchestra, to contemptuously take a cymbal off of his drum set and throw it at his feet as a signal to leave the stage. However, rather than discouraging Parker, the incident caused him to vow to practice harder, and turned out to be a seminal moment in the young musician's career when he returned as a new man a year later.

On display in any jam session is thousands of hours of (solitary) practice, study, and reflection.

[bigmealbigmeal]

> On display in any jam session is thousands of hours of (solitary) practice, study, and reflection.

But not necessarily. Some musicians exclusively learn to play through being taught and jamming with others. I admit it's rare, and even as an extrovert it's not true for myself.

However, for a more damning condemnation of this "creativity requires solitude" viewpoint, we only need to venture into the world of improv theatre. Almost everyone in improv is unleashing non-stop creativity, but they've almost never practiced improv alone. It's the total counterpoint to this unnecessary association between artistry and isolation.

Highly extroverted artists exist. They rarely create alone. They rarely practice alone. I urge people to acknowledge that this is a worthy way to be a compelling artist, rather than acting like the preference of the introverted artist is the only worthy way of doing things.

[yeeyeeyee]

>Highly extroverted artists exist and do not create alone.

Find me one professional jazz musician that is "100% extroverted" and I can find you twenty places or quotations that clearly demonstrate that s/he has listened and studied the history of the music.

I'm not saying who is "worthy", whatever that means. I'm saying what needs to be done to be educated, to understand.

[agumonkey]

Even seasoned experts, will find creativity in jam sessions, stuff that they wouldn't have found by themselves. How hard is this to understand ?

[yeeyeeyee]

Incredibly hard to understand. As if, say, Einstein waved his hand and produced a rigorous theory of the general relativity. And spent no time on it himself. Or if, say, Coltrane revolutionized music but never practiced.

I agree that adversarial interactions can produce results. That's not what the OP is saying. What the OP is saying is that you need a whole lot of self understanding to create good work in the space of writing.