Microsoft Clipchamp

[kuratkull]

Firefox users are asked to please stay away:

It looks like your browser is not supported To use Clipchamp, make sure you're using the latest version of Google Chrome, or the latest Microsoft Edge

[NordSteve]

Hi! Engineer who actually works on Clipchamp.

Sorry you ran into that issue. Firefox support is in the works - we plan to support the same set of browsers as the other Office features, as described here: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/which-browsers-wo...

If this tech looks interesting, come join us! We have a bunch of open engineering positions in Brisbane that are 100% WFH from Australia: https://careers.microsoft.com/us/en/search-results?keywords=...

[mrtksn]

Feels like 2000s again, we are supposed to switch browser for each site again.

[stnvh]

Using Firefox with the user agent changed to chrome seems to get around this

[te_chris]

So sick of sites doing this. Labelbox even does it! Absolutely absurd.

[cyxxon]

Works for me(tm). No, really - I just navigated to the page with Firefox 103 on Wind10/64 and just got a normal website for the editor, with download links, videos, etc. Nothing about me needing to use a chrome based browser. Maybe they changed this?

[tluyben2]

Same for safari indeed.

[FractalParadigm]

I used this software (the app version) a couple weeks ago for the first time. I grabbed a great clip while playing a game and wanted to show it to a friend, but I didn't want to send the full 500MB 60s video when the clip was only ~6 seconds. I didn't want to spend a ton of time downloading proper editing software so I gave it a shot. It's a little clunky if I'm honest, it feels like an evolution of Windows Movie Maker; it works in a pinch, just don't expect anything professional to come out of it.

[mackrevinack]

LosslessCut is my go to for that sort of thing

https://github.com/mifi/lossless-cut

[jeroenhd]

I usually use the Xbox app that's probably preinstalled on your Windows computer anyway; it's built to integrate with the game bar and can cut videos quite easily.

For this reason, and the fact that Windows already ships a clip editor, I'm not sure what Microsoft is planning to do with this. Maybe they'll replace the built in editor at some point?

[sitzkrieg]

i have similar use cases, avidemux is a small free program and it excels in this trimming scenario. if you dont change video output settings (copy) it will trim in a few seconds, no rendering or transcoding

[Jaruzel]

On Windows 10 (not sure about win 11) there is now a built in app called Video Editor, which seems like an evolution of Movie Maker.

[louisstow]

This was originally a startup in Brisbane that was acquired, not a Microsoft name.

[quickthrower2]

HN title needs editing.

[bjano]

For people who don't want to sign up but still like the idea of a video editor running in a browser (that doesn't upload anything), I am working on an alternative:

https://vidmix.app

[preommr]

Feels like we're burying the lede here focusing on firefox/chrome or having to login when it's really damned impressive that you have an entire video editor in the browser.

So it seems like codec support allows viewing individual frames, and you've got some kind of ffmpeg script, and some kind of totally canvas based ui. There's a lot of cool tech in here showing some really interesting possibilities. Congrats on that!

What kind of ui library are you using for this btw?

[sorenjan]

> Your browser has limited support for this webapp. Please use the latest Chrome or Edge for better performance, stability, and more features.

Using Firefox 105. What features are bad or missing in Firefox, and do you know if Mozilla is working on fixing them?

[stjohnswarts]

thanks. I don't think I should have to log in to type a document or edit a video. :/ Thank you!

[throw_m239339]

Looks good, can you tell us more about the tech behind it? Are you running FFMPEG in the browser or something?

[Meph504]

A rather simple utility that for some reason requires a login, I see no value in that when there are so many analogs that don't.

[UweSchmidt]

What's your favorite alternative?

[jgtrosh]

Though I agree with the sentiment, the core feature this seems to provide is stock video integration. And stock media services always require login.

[londons_explore]

How many times on that landing page do they mention "Windows PC"? Eleven times! We got the message!

It looks like they're trying to resist "Great software, but can you release a Mac version"?

[nguyenkien]

That was a landing page for Windows version, what do you expect?. Here is home page: https://clipchamp.com/

[badrabbit]

Such a Microsofty name, I am a bit confused about ther relationship with Microsoft given the title of the post and MS logo at the bottom of the page.

[mplewis9z]

Linked from their "About us" page: https://techcrunch.com/2021/09/08/microsoft-acquires-video-c...

[eurleif]

https://clipchamp.com/en/terms/ says:

>Clipchamp Pty Ltd (ACN 162516556), a subsidiary of Microsoft Corporation

[foobarbecue]

Requires an account? Sigh.

[therein]

Does it in the app? Microsoft Store does have that dark pattern of looking like it wants you to sign in but then downloading the application anyway when you press cancel.

Edit: Oh wow it is a packaged "web-app". I see. That's unfortunate.

[seydor]

i use windows movie maker. It still exists, you can download it as binary and it's a pretty quick video editor with lots of options. I was unable to figure out the new win10 editor or chipchamp

[prox]

Kdenlive is pretty decent on windows if you need a bit more control.

[xgad]

As someone who has also worked on an in-browser video editor before, I do tip my hat to the developers working on Clipchamp. I think it's one of the better implemented products in this space considering that the memory-intensive process of encoding videos has not traditionally scaled very well into the browser. That being said, I'll probably still be sticking to something like iMovie or Resolve for more basic video editing since native NLEs are still way more performant overall (and they're free to use).

[BuckRogers]

I’ve used this but the existing Microsoft video editor is better. I even set up an account and everything for Clip champ. It may be better for short videos, clips. But in general I feel like Microsoft is existing free video editor is the way to go. I use it a lot.

One huge difference between the two is that Clip champ is very slow in encoding your videos. Microsoft video editor will use all your cores or GPU acceleration. Whichever you prefer. I’ve noticed I get better results with CPU encoding. But Clip champ doesn’t even offer that and it’s very slow.

[marczellm]

I have a very, very slow connection particularly for upload. Releasing a desktop "app" which wraps a website for video editing of all things... Feels like a spit in the face.

[maxpert]

Disclaimer: Final Cut user here, so I will be extremely biased.

While parts of UI are ripoff from Final Cut. I still found it to be pretty basic. Won’t be using it and I doubt other professionals will.

Nevertheless can be good tool for free usage and meme makers. It still unlocks a sizable market for Microsoft.

[laundermaf]

Comparing this to FCP is a cheap swing. Obviously this is meant as an iMovie/MovieMaker alternative, not for professionals.

[dav1app]

I ditched Clipchamp in favour of Flixier. It is 10 times better. It is usable on other platforms, allows both video and audio processing (including features missing on Clipchamp, like audio eq and green screen processing).

I am no associated with Flixier in any form but a customer.

[bloqs]

$30 a month just to export at full resolution and $15 a month to export at 1080p, free only allows 720p. (Yearly sub gives 20% discount)

Unfortunately, I could totally get behind throttling export speed or maybe the other stuff but it's just very neutered

[collegeburner]

anybody used this? i still have found 0 software that beats the ease of use, discoverability, simplicity, power and overall ux of Capcut and that's mobile. tbh i'd prefer desktop if i could find it so this could be cool.

[jaflo]

CapCut has a desktop version! I have not tried it myself so no idea how good it is: https://www.capcut.com/

[bitwize]

Can they bring back Clippy as a mascot for this? Or maybe McZee?

[nreece]

There's also a nice and light video editor built-into Windows Photos app (which is now prompting to install Clipchamp). It's pretty good for short clips.

[Sqwandery]

Why is this a download if it's a web app?

[trog]

I have been wondering for years I'd this product is ffmpeg transpiled into JavaScript so it can run in the browser. It feels like there might be a nice open source opportunity here if so, although I imagine they've spent most of the last few years dealing with all the edge cases that make this work.

[robd003]

Are there any good open source video editors? I've been holding my breath on VLMC for over a decade now...

[folmar]

Cinelerra and OpenShot for a start.