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sprak | 3 years ago

Sweden has four zones and according to [1] tomorrow's price will be from north to south:

Zone 1: 14,25 cents/kWh

Zone 2: 14,25 cents/kWh

Zone 3: 108,64 cents/kWh

Zone 4: 201,63 cents/kWh

1 Swedish krona is 0,094 USD. So between 1,3 and 20 American cents per kWh.

Most people live in Zone 3 followed by Zone 4. Facebook's datacenter is in Zone 1.

[1]: https://elen.nu

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thepasswordis|3 years ago

To put this into more human terms: a tesla model Y has a 75kwh battery.

So this means to charge it, at home, would cost between $0.75, $2.25, and $15.

A normal air conditioner uses about 3.5kw. So if it runs for 6 hours a day, so 21kwh/day. $0.21/day, $0.63/day, and $4.2/day.

kilovoltaire|3 years ago

thanks for the context!

small typo - air conditioner should be 3.5kw not kwh

roflyear|3 years ago

How much in Cali?

moogly|3 years ago

Facebook will have a much lower price anyway. Large industries (like steel plants, mining operations, paper mills, saw mills, and, yes, data centers) in Sweden have not been affected yet since they are not normally directly exposed to the spot price due to different price protection strategies[0]. There is no way Facebook pays consumer spot prices. Plus Sweden has the lowest electricity tax in the EU[1] for these companies. They raised it from 0 in 2019 due to EU regulations to 0.005 SEK/kWh. Consumer electricity tax today is 0.45 SEK/kWh including VAT. I believe there is also a way to write off a part of the electricity costs.

[0]: https://www.svd.se/a/rE0R9R/elpriserna-nar-inte-industrin-ha... (paywall)

[1]: https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/lagst-elpriser-till-indus...

tmikaeld|3 years ago

The disturbing thing is that Zone 4 has to pay export prices, when it would be fairer to pay pre-export prices.

It's already starting to bankrupt businesses in Zone 4, that are calling for immediate changes [0].

[0] https://www.di.se/live/efter-elprissmockan-skanska-foretag-v...

anticristi|3 years ago

Hello from zone 4. Indeed, people here are pretty pissed about this. Basically, if an exporting transmission line got damaged, zone 4 prices would drop instantly.