[tresqotheq]

Moving goalposts much?

> which are produced from them actually seem to work.

Oh yea, religeious things also seem to work. For example, prayers and other religeous offerings. That is how these things survive so long.

[craftsman]

The fact that things seem to work does not mean that they actually do work. We all are subject to cognitive biases which can trip us up. Most people aren’t very good at recognizing when that happens. That’s why these things survive so long.

[tresqotheq]

>The fact that things seem to work does not mean that they actually do work.

Well, the same can be applied to your "western science" as well..

[craftsman]

Except when we test them, they don’t seem to work after all. Would you fly on an airplane engineered by someone trained in engineering, or a plane engineered by someone who relied only on inspiration from a deity? Would you go to the hospital with doctors who practice typical Western medicine, or a hospital in which the doctors only pray over you? Etc.

[tresqotheq]

>Except when we test them, they don’t seem to work after all.

Have you heard about the replication crisis in your "western science"?

[craftsman]

And no, that’s not moving goalposts.

[tresqotheq]

It is, because you can verify the claims of a holy man if you go meditate in a cave for a couple of decades.

Since no one is willing to do that, people used to accept their word for a fact. The same is the case with science claim that cannot be verified by common men who depend on them.

That they are also "believing", might be hard to get through the thick skull of these modern "science" gushers. They fail to see that "science" can be just a label, strapped to anything businesses wants to sell.