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tresqotheq | 3 years ago

> The claims of a holy man are not.

How come? The claims of holy men are verified by other holy men.

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0134340|3 years ago

Man is imperfect. The scientific method is a process that verifies, humans implement and observe the output. With religion, humans "observe" more than they can verify. Religion admits as much that it lacks verification, that's why it has faith.

Religion wants the best of both worlds, saying it is endowed with logic and verification yet when pushed you get the same tired argument about faith and 'gods exist outside logic'. At the same time it wants to say that it doesn't have to participate. Why should your side be special? Why can't I ultimately resort to illogic? Who knows, maybe my atheistic views are derived from a system so abstracted from my intellectual senses that I can validly resort to claiming they may ultimately stem from a time/place far removed from logic also, I just don't claim that it's an anthropomorphic entity like a god.

tresqotheq|3 years ago

>Man is imperfect.

Yes

>The scientific method is a process that verifies...

And this process is done by imperfect men...who you end up trusting...

craftsman|3 years ago

Except you can find another group of holy men who disagree with that group. And a third group that disagrees with those two groups. The number of groups ends up quite large, and nobody can quite seem to figure out a way to test whether one group has it a bit more right than the others.

tresqotheq|3 years ago

> Except you can find another group of holy men who disagree with that group.

This happens in your "western science" also (despite all the ability to "test" things), he he he...excuse me. Couldn't help it.