[ericwooley]

The entire concept of fronted frameworks is an anti pattern?

This might be the oldest, grumpiest man on the front lawn yelling at childreniest take we on web dev, that I’ve ever heard

[fezfight]

You have to at least admit that there's an awful lot of stuff done these days to render what used to be done with html.

[TheCoelacanth]

It's not what used to be done with HTML. It's what used to be done with desktop GUI toolkits.

Web apps were never this complex before the creation of frontend web frameworks.

[chrischattin]

Yep. Duplicating the data model on the client and server is just one example of the insanity. I could go on, but that’s for another day.