[daenz]

>But the damage was done. Afterwards, everyone was afraid of being filmed without consent again.

Devil's advocate, but isn't the point of being nude in public that you are destigmatizing it? I know you mentioned this was a "private lake" but it is unclear of if you mean legally private or de facto private. In case of the latter, even creepers have a right to be there and film.

I used to visit a nude beach and there was always some clothed weirdo with their phone out. They would get unfriendly looks by everyone though, and I think the ostracization kept them on the outskirts of the community.

[fxtentacle]

The lake was on private property owned by the parents of one of the participants. But there's an "open to the public" hiking trail at the border of their property. So legally, I'd consider this similar to looking over the fence into your neighbor's garden.

I'd estimate that for most participants, the point of being nude was to feel free. I mean this was students drinking, swimming, and playing beach games for relaxation, not some political rally.

[aqme28]

That’s not the point of being nude in public. For some people sure. Others like the freedom of it.

In either case, most just want an ephemeral experience, and don’t want permanent recordings.

[jrockway]

I don't think people really like permanent recordings even when they're wearing clothes. One of my favorite things about the pandemic is the sense of anonymity in public that wearing a mask offers. Less likely to get messages like "hey I saw you slip on that ice on r/all". Instead you're just some rando slipping on the ice!

[daenz]

You can enjoy the freedom of being nude on your own private property then. No need to add "in public" unless you are trying to a) destigmatize or b) be an exhibitionist

[sph]

> Devil's advocate, but isn't the point of being nude in public that you are destigmatizing it?

Destigmatizing doesn't mean people are free to stare or film you. It's the same if someone were filming on a regular beach because they find people's bodies in bikinis attractive (or to have a wank, as admitted by that old creep). You probably wouldn't like that very much.

[daenz]

Assuming we're talking about the US, if you are in public, people absolutely are free to stare or film you.

[throwawaylinux]

No, but people being free to stare at whatever they like in public means that they are free to stare at you.

[tremon]

isn't the point of being nude in public that you are destigmatizing it?

Context matters. The act itself can be destigmatizing (doesn't have to be the goal), but recording it and displaying it out of context usually causes more stigmatization.