[brendanmc6]

I'm almost ready to sell my DIY Windows framework and go back to mac. It won't go to sleep-- fans always spin unless I shut down completely. Forums aren't any help. Anyone have this issue? Other commenters have similar complaints here https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31433556

I really wanted to support this company because I believe in repairability! But repairability is meaningless the software doesn't work... I'm not a 16 year old enthusiast anymore, I don't have the time or patience to troubleshoot drivers, firmware, devices etc. etc. :(

[TacticalCoder]

> I'm almost ready to sell my DIY Windows framework and go back to mac.

If you do so make sure to buy the longest extended warranty you can, covering the slightest tiny thing that can happen to your M1 Mac. Mine was a fine machine, zero bug, while the screen worked. These M1 Mac laptops have brittle porcelain screens. As someone put it here: it's the bend-gate all over again. FWIW I've got both a 2013 and a 2014 MacBook Air as well as a 4 years old (?) LG Gram laptop. They all have their screens still working fine and I'm pretty sure I know how to handle a laptop: these new M1 laptops are just fragile.

[Tade0]

I suspected there would be a catch preventing me from buying a MacBook.

I damaged the screen in every laptop that I ever owned - either by creating pressure marks or - like in the most recent one - somehow stretching(either via temperature or flexing the surprisingly flimsy cover) the adhesive which kept all the LCD layers in place, creating a diagonal clouding pattern in the process.

My next laptop will be a framework because then at least I will be able to easily replace the screen once the inevitable happens.

[Handytinge]

As the context of this topic is Australia, this isn't necessary. Warranties don't add much value compared to consumer law, which the vendor must comply with in Australia.

Anything I've ever had a fault not caused by me with has been replaced free of charge years after I bought it, including from large American companies like Amazon and Apple.

[pb7]

Neither of those MacBook Airs have a glass display, do they?

Nothing about the M1s is more fragile than before, just treat your things more carefully.

[rawrenstein]

I returned my 12th gen Framework and purchased an M1 Pro MBP. It was absolutely the right decision. I just wasn’t ready to accept the lower quality product for such a premium price as much as I wanted to support the company.

[okasaki]

Maybe it's a Windows issue. My dell xps won't sleep either and I have to shut it down for any kind of transport.

[askvictor]

My dell (linux) doesn't sleep either. At least it keeps my back warm while in transit on those cold winter mornings.

[throwaway48292]

"Modern Standby"... And yes, it never works properly

[scaredginger]

Not just Windows, it's at the hardware level. Intel has been removing S3 sleep mode from recent CPUs. It is insanely stupid

[pixelbreaker]

Same here, I ditched mac for Framework, tried Windows, nope, fans always on, Ubuntu, battery died when lid closed in < 2 hours and fingerprint scanner didn't work. Fedora, same issue. I sold it and bought an M1 Pro. Nothing wrong with it so far. OK it was 3 times the price, but you get what you pay for.

[siva7]

Then a macbook is the right choice if you just want a device that works and got no time for tinkering around.

[arghwhat]

The "just works" thing is unfortunately a thing of the past.

[_ZeD_]

problem is... the macbook are awful

[askvictor]

fwiw my Dell won't go to sleep either (on Linux at least)