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devonallie | 3 years ago

Is this not the opposite of a bubble? It seems like public opinion and public policy are actually making significant shifts into making psychedelic treatments more mainstream. From which I expect a large industry to emerge.

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hcks|3 years ago

You are literally stating what makes it a bubble: the narrative according to which psychedelics are now being rehabilitated into treatments due to very promising results.

But this narrative is getting old now, and the promising results in question are actually quite slim, in a field which is historically riddled with treatments that have a low effectiveness (when they work at all)

nocoiner|3 years ago

I know an anecdote isn’t data, but I’m a pretty straight laced guy who’s never used an illegal drug other than pot, so no prior experience with any psychedelics (except for taking an Ambien on an empty stomach lol). I started ketamine therapy a few weeks ago, and while I obviously can’t prove that it isn’t the placebo effect at work, my mood was tremendously and noticeably improved immediately after my first course of medication. And it’s had an immediate beneficial effect on my regular/traditional therapy sessions. It just feels like it was a missing piece to a puzzle I’ve been working on for a long time.

I want to see the science continue to study these drugs and psychedelic therapy, but for me there’s no doubt in my mind this has been significantly more beneficial in the short term than any other medication I’ve ever taken (i.e., been prescribed). If the science shows it isn’t right for everyone or most people - so be it. But it has been a game-changer for me.

mistermann|3 years ago

> the promising results in question are actually quite slim

Promising results that occur outside of formal scientific settings still occur, although consciousness (possibly amplified by various pre-existing beliefs) can make it appear as if they do not. As luck would have it, psychedelics can be very helpful in sorting out one's thinking on such things.

ad404b8a372f2b9|3 years ago

I don't think that makes it a bubble. A bubble is when my mom starts talking about it. Who has access to these psychedelics outside of research? They are not mainstream at all. If I wanted some I couldn't get any.

devonallie|3 years ago

This is true. I should have said that it seems to be a slowly but sustainably growing market. When I think of bubble, I think of a rapid boon followed by a bust. I don’t think this industry will have either.

MAGZine|3 years ago

So by your definition, fusion energy is also a bubble?