[cee_el123]

"no-dissapointment-in-my-life-is-ever-my-fault trap"

I am one of those people who certainly missed the boat due to my own missteps, mistakes, lack of motivation

But let's talk about those who don't/didn't have the favourable circumstances and opportunities I had/have

Is not being able to afford / be-accepted-for a life changing college degree that person's fault 50% of the time ? is it their parents' fault ? is it the grandparents' fault that the parents weren't better off ? if so ... where does this blame game stop ? at some point govt/society needs to step in and give you a boost regardless of your background

debatably, inheritance & land ownership are well executed systemic conspiracies

mistakes, missteps, lack of motivation, are all fine - but "lack of ability" ? you're arguing against yourself there - if there is such a thing as lack of ability - that's certainly a terrible reason to disqualify a person from having their basic needs met

[jschveibinz]

> if there is such a thing as lack of ability - that’s certainly a terrible reason…

I think this is a good point. Nobody should be disqualified, and there are in fact many programs available to help people achieve their personal best.

Community college is an excellent stepping stone, as are vocational training programs. These are available in some states at a very low cost.

There is self-affirmation in achieving completion of any project, and completion of a training program that enables one to work, to create, to contribute and to develop self-agency is a wonderful thing to do.

[twblalock]

Government is constantly giving people a boost. Need-based grants for college, for example. All sorts of welfare programs. Food stamps. Unemployment insurance. Housing vouchers. Social security and Medicare in retirement.

I’m not sure what kind of society you are arguing against, because it’s not the one we have.