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syvolt | 3 years ago

There is no doubt in my mind that lesser privileged kids get bullied when they get invited to an iPhone texting group and they instantly break all functionality with cheaper Android phones. Apple downplaying teenage (hell even younger now) bullying for profit and people leaping to their defense is disheartening.

I'll just leave this here since people may not be aware just how bad it is, https://connect.uclahealth.org/2022/03/15/suicide-rate-highe...

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snowwrestler|3 years ago

Speculatively tying your pet peeve to a serious social problem is an old and tired framing trick. That way if people disagree with your pet peeve, you can retort with “oh, I guess you don’t care about teen suicide?”

It’s obvious and it does little to advance your cause, while trivializing the actual serious problem.

We’re not going to solve teen suicide with RCS.

syvolt|3 years ago

Speculative tie-in? Google's claims are that Apple profits from peer pressure and bullying, I'm not sure but I would think that the people most bullied would be teens and then logically some would commit suicide because of it, I'm sure other bullying would be part of the bullying "package" if that appeases you.

It doesn't have to be RCS but Apple has made clear they don't want any interoperability, so that seems like bad faith.

CharlesW|3 years ago

> There is no doubt in my mind that lesser privileged kids get bullied when they get invited to an iPhone texting group and they instantly break all functionality with cheaper Android phones.

Sample size of one, but I asked my 13 y.o. daughter.

Me:

   This guy believes kids get bullied for having Android phones
Daughter:

   What guy
Me:

   Random guy
   
   As a kid, do people care about the blue vs green bubble thing?
Daughter:

   No
   
   Before I knew it happened when you texted an android i thought the green was special
   
   lol

shaky-carrousel|3 years ago

Another data point. I'm from Spain, and the ones who are bullied here are the iPhone users. Vast majority of people are Android users, and iPhone users are seen as snobs. That's among the adults. Nobody here would hand over an iPhone to a kid. It's not hugely expensive, but it's expensive enough.

syvolt|3 years ago

I'm glad your daughter does not think this way or hang around people who do. You've raised her right.

throwaway5959|3 years ago

Jesus that’s one helluva leap.

syvolt|3 years ago

You think so? It might be a tad dramatic but teens interface with the world through their phones and this purposeless "otherization" can not be having a good effect on society.