[bjz_]

Hey, funny to see this old thing pop up here!

I don't really use this site any more, but thought I'd just pop in to remind people that these are my personal thoughts from last year... I think there are some things I would add or change now and as others have noted, it's ok to disagree with me!

Many of the things I listed are not new, and there's been plenty of difficult discussions about many of them over the years, and are being worked on or postponed, or rejected for various good reasons (I could have done a better job at citing stuff in this gist). Managing a living language is difficult and challenging task, and many compromises need to be made. I think the Rust community is doing a great job considering all the challenges.

That said, I'd love to see more language designers consider the possible space of memory-safe by default systems languages, learning from what Rust can teach us, and bringing on board ideas from other places, like the newer systems languages and developments in dependent types, sub-structural type systems, etc. There's still so much more to explore, and still lots that can be done to improve in Rust itself.

[estebank]

Ah! Now I understand why that old tweet was being interacted with :)

I happen to agree with a significant portion of that list and some are, as you point out, being worked on.

[greenhearth]

Please no more languages

[mwcampbell]

I think there's actually a serious point here. As is so often the case, we should be unifying our efforts to solve common, pressing problems, not fragmenting our efforts over things that matter far less. Specifically, I think those of us that care about reliability and efficiency should unite behind Rust to provide a compelling replacement for C and C++ on the one hand, and (for some applications) higher-level but less efficient languages on the other. Rust is certainly not perfect, but if we succeed at making it a popular language with great libraries covering many application domains, it'll be better than what we have now.

[killingtime74]

It’s interesting someone found your random list and posted it lol