Literally just had to leave a comment on this blog post after reading because he talks about how he's going to start leaving his Garmin InReach Mini at home because he can now use the satellite feature on his iPhone when he's out hiking in the Scottish mountains. As far as I'm aware, the satellite functionality is currently strictly for the US and Canadian markets only. I get that it's a big deal and a great technological achievement they want to brag about but I hope they are making it abundantly clear in other countries that this functionality is not available. If they're glossing over it, they're going to end up with a lot of people going into potentially dangerous situations with a false sense of security like this guy with potentially tragic consequences.
Another good reason not to give up the Garmin just yet is having two-way communication on your emergency beacon too. It's not really confirmed or known what Apple is offering here and if there will be any way to communicate with rescuers if you have to initiate a rescue.
With Garmin devices you can text both ways and it has been shown in many rescues to be a huge advantage at getting the right search and rescue or other team to you faster--they can find out what the situation is and if they need to skip right to a helicopter rescue for example. If I were an avid hiker I wouldn't ditch the Garmin just yet (but hopefully in a year or two we'll see if Apple and others try to compete in the satellite rescue beacon world and offer comparable features).
Or let’s talk about just how about the Garmin is actually a rugged device and usually clipped directly to an individuals clothes/pack. I can’t imagine iPhone is as durable and that typical protective case can be or will be attached to the individual hiking.
There are still situations I think sos on iPhone 14 does make sense. Like driving in middle of nowhere without signal and having car troubles.
I would also though agree people may get this false sense of safety, but I’m sure having something is better than nothing and having 2 options is better then 1 and maybe someone else hiking may find an someone who needs emergency help and doesn’t have inreach and able to help. The iPhone isn’t useless as sos device, but I will know I’ll be counting on my inreach on my adventures as my emergency beacon even if I did have iPhone 14.
It’s not active yet, the speculation is roughly November. Knowing Apple they will be VERY clear about this when the time comes. Since you have to sign up for service (free for the first two years) that would be a good time to make you go through the limitations.
> he can now use the satellite feature on his iPhone when he's out hiking in the Scottish mountains
He does not say this. He explicitly says he did carry his garmin when in Scotland. From the article:
> (for the last week in Scotland, we’ve not had cell service), so I have a Garmin inReach MINI I carry with me
The author's point was that he travels a lot in the US and abroad, and that he will keep his Garmin but use it less and pause his subscription more often.
This is a blog post about the iPhone being reflected upon whilst in Scotland, which makes it a good read. If it were an advertorial, I see how you could jump this critique on it. But it's not.
The Verge also mentioned that Apple goes overboard when it comes to noise reduction lately with their phones. It becomes really obvious when you compare an iPhone 13 with say a Pixel phone and there have been many complaints about it. Instead it looks like they continued to double down with it on the iPhone 14. It's a shame since they have such good hardware and ruin the pics with their photo processing pipeline.
Is that why my wife has been complaining all her pictures make her look like she has a smooth/filter-applied face? She just switched from Android to Iphone 13. I tried playing around with the settings but couldn't make it look 'normal'.
this confirms all the lousy bizarre looking photos I create at times. I suspected possibly some strange post processing was going on but couldn't confirm it. I assumed I was driving the phone in awkward lighting or some other condition where the post processing salvaged my photo from a blurry mess, but there's no way to tell because like others identified there's no way to turn it off.
I remember telling someone about this great image sensor on the old OnePlus One a friend gave me years outside of its lifecycle and how it takes pretty amazing photos. I wonder if it was just a function of no image processing, and my steady hand from years of photography and breath-holding practice to manually stabilize my photos.
It's not just noise reduction but the sharpening of the photos is really crazy. I took a picture of my carpet and it looks nothing like it does in person or up close. Like my carpet is just fuzzy and bland colored, not deep grand canyon crevasses with lots of contrast that show in the iPhone photo.
I've been noticing this issue with many smartphones lately, I've been looking at smartphone camera reviews a bunch and none of them look particularly good.
They have been doing this since iPhone X. Somewhere along the line "Computational Photography" took over. And the old iPhone where they value true to life photo style turns to HDR high contrast smooth looking Instagram photos.
I remember the old Apple guards used to trash the Samsung / Android photo as being unrealistic. How the tide has turned.
The new Apple resembles very little of the old Apple.
I think we need a new way to judge cameras... Getting experts to zoom in on tricky corners is no longer a good way to test.
There needs to be a new metric that reflects the whole user journey of using the camera - from figuring out how it works, to taking new photos when one came out bad. How many attempts to get a photo of a serial number label down behind the dishwasher..? Do pictures of the moon look terrible because the lens has fingerprints all over and the user doesn't realise? Can the camera run at the same time as google maps navigation and an audiobook without lag?
> Offloading photos/videos via Lightning cable is another story. I’ve had some serious pains trying to transfer content from my iPhone to my MacBook Pro. I’ve been on YouTube watching videos, unplugging, switching Lightning cables, restarting devices — doing all the things I can think of. I finally found a tip that said if you turn on Airplane mode, then Apple Photos will properly load, and thankfully it did.
> These pains offloading media are not a new issue specific to the iPhone 14 Pro, and I really hope it is solved soon.
I'm surprised that he didn't consider AirDrop as a means of getting photos out. That's how I transfer most of the photos I need to edit on my MacBook these days.
The crazy thing is how well libimobiledevice + AFC (1) work on Linux. All I do is plug in my iPhone and open Nautilus (2) to see a list of my apps (3) that support file sharing.
The phone shows up as a camera with photos, as well.
When I worked at walk-in tech support at university, we weren't supposed to take responsibility for backing up data prior to drop-off and didn't have drives or anything for that purpose. Sometimes if the customer seemed like the type of person that wouldn't blame us (why that policy was there) and really had no way to get it off I would use one of our WinPE USB drives to copy their essential files. When they had a Mac, however, I would just AirDrop their entire home directory to the Mac loaner and show them how to do the same when it came back. It would go through 100GBs of files within a few minutes and didn't use any of our equipment other than the loaner itself.
I don't think I've plugged an iPhone into my MacBook other than to charge on a trip since the last time I was into jailbreaking and was running checkra1n.
AirDrop is the only feasible way but still, 60Gig of Raw Video still take its time and will cancel for stupid reasons, like the iPhone just going into standby while airdropping.
Apple still can't figure out which formats to use. I've seen Photos compress photos to something like 256x256 PNG when sending via AirDrop. And this depends very randomly on the versions of OSes on your phone and your laptop and on the year of your phone and laptop.
AirDrop is 100x slower than the equivalent wired solution. I say this as someone transfering 350GB of media off their phone on friday, Apple needs to fix wired file access from mac to phone.
It's good that he's highlighting the potential issues with the eSim. To me, forcing every new iPhone user to go all-in with eSim is ridiculous. That will work for many, yet it could be a painful issue for some.
Given that they still sell iPhone 14 with regular SIM cards, why wouldn't they allow that option in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!?
I recently tried buying an esim while travelling to Sweden because I always forget to buy one at the airport, or in advance. It actually worked out very well, and it was nice not to have to swap out my existing sim and take on a new phone number across all the messaging apps while I was there.
The thing that strikes me as ridiculous is that in the US on CDMA carriers, there was the exact same thing as "eSIMs" for years. You had to beg and plead with your carrier to set up and provision your phone, since there was no physical SIM.
So for Apple to pitch this as "wow, it's a new system where instead of just putting in a sim card you have to grovel to your carrier to set up your phone", it hardly strikes me as better UX.
It will be painful for an incredibly tiny number of people, and vastly superior for basically everyone else. Plus, it frees up valuable physical space inside the phone.
another counterpoint: I just got back from a trip in Europe and had to swap my sim card back when we landed. I forgot to ask for the small (and easily losable) tool they give you to pop open the tray, but luckily my SO had an earring that was able to fit.
As someone who switches between two phones somewhat regularly, eSim is just not doable for me. Thankfully I'm not in the US so this specific iPhone 14 situation doesn't effect me but I can totally see them forcing this on us here in Australia as well.
I’m not in the US and I’m happy with this new change. Local telcos have eSim support but only for postpaid. Now US iPhone users will come and demand eSim for prepaid, it should finally force them to support prepaid users (or lose out to competitors).
I switched to T-Mobile last year and they basically insisted on a physical SIM card. They told me I wouldn’t get 5G with an eSIM. That sounded like BS, but I was never able to figure out why they would care what time of SIM I used.
I’ve been kinda unimpressed with the iPhone 13 mini camera coming from the pixel 6 pro. I like everything else about the iPhone better, but the camera seems substantially worse. I have to edit pictures quite a bit to fix color balance issues. Here’s a recent example:
(Lightroom won’t let me share both my edit and the unedited original but the blueish picture was taken at almost the same time and had the same general look as the edited picture.)
I’m not sure who would like the unedited version of the picture but I get weird color issues like this all the time on my mini. Here’s another one of my kid:
For anyone who has a doubt, I testify that my kid is not red and those cliffs were not blue.
Worst thing is it’s totally unpredictable when the issue is gonna crop up. It doesn’t happen in every picture. I don’t know what someone would do with a camera like this if they didn’t know how to edit to fix the colors.
this is true. you can follow @dalevon_digital on Twitter and he frequently does slr/iPhone/pixel blind comparisons. the pixel has won every single one when compared to a reference SLR picture.
I wonder if it's because I'm getting old and jaded, but I really fail to get excited by this continuous flow of new devices (and "stuff" in general). I could get a new iPhone from my company, but I don't even see the point.
Coming from a still enthusiastic tech person who loves iPhone, I don’t think it’s a you problem. This is clearly another S revision in all but name, for the second year in a row. I want to be excited but there’s nothing particularly compelling unless you’re coming from pre-2020 (or maybe pre-2019). I’m still loving my 12 mini and will probably use it for at least another year, maybe two.
Compelling upgrades would be: another small variant (or smaller than 14 pro at least), something foldable (maybe, if done really really well), significantly improved battery life, bike computer functionality (CarPlay for bikes), or significantly improved performance (in a few years, maybe the 12 mini will be noticeably slow in 2024).
The curse of releasing devices with hardware that’s 3-5 years ahead of the competition in delivered performance (not just feature checklists) is that unless you wait 4+ years, new models don’t always feel like upgrades.
As a ~normal person who uses their phone at least 4 hours per day, it's the single most important tech device in my life. I enjoy getting the best thing out there every upgrade cycle (2 years). The progress feels incremental, but going back and using an n-1 gen phone reminds me how much slower things were. All of those extra half-second waits between interactions add up, and I enjoy having a quality camera with me wherever I go. There are also things like phone speaker quality that while hard to objectively measure and promote, have really improved over the years to the point where I don't hate doing things like watching educational or fun YouTube videos in bed in the morning.
This is generally my attitude towards OS software updates, previously a topic I’d follow closely. I get where you’re coming from!
My interest in hardware revisions has only grown in recent years, particularly in mobile devices. I’m not gonna go rush off and buy a new iPhone, I’m quite pleased with my 13 Pro Max and upgrading now would feel horribly wasteful. But I’m continually awed by advancements in mobile camera technology, and whenever I do upgrade it feels as much like magic as when I got my first newer game console (NES -> SNES) as a kid. But to be clear, my interest here is almost completely in the camera, and I pretty much view my phone as a really nice camera with convenient computing and network affordances included for some almost inexplicable reason.
To a lesser extent, recent advances in chips has also had me pining to upgrade a perfectly good laptop which again would feel wasteful to do now, but I expect when the time comes it’ll feel similarly revelatory even if that’s more incremental just because I’ve been upgrading the same sorts of things for much longer.
It’s okay, probably even good, that you don’t feel the same way about the device upgrade treadmill. A slower upgrade cycle would be objectively good for a lot of more important things. I’m not going to try to convince you a new iPhone is something you should want even for “free”. Just offering personal perspective why I find the new one exciting even if I’ll skip it.
My family is excited for it simply because of the hand-me-down supply chain - someone gets a new phone, someone else a few hops down gets a gently used iPhone X and we donate/sell a still functional iPhone6s.
I agree… but I also think it’s a great sign of slow but steady progress. The kind that will really standout in a few years. Comparing todays phone camera to a 2010 phone, makes me feel pretty good
If you don’t benefit from the upgrades, of course you aren’t excited about them. If you do benefit from them, it’s more exciting.
I was excited when I got the iPhone 13 Pro because of the LiDAR ToF sensor and being able to utilize Apple’s new object capture API. I was also excited to have a zoom lens, as my old phone (iPhone 7) did not have one. These were all things I had a clear use case for, so it makes sense I was excited for the upgrade.
I think it’s okay to not be excited when you don’t have a reason to be. Don’t assume that means you’re old and jaded.
I like to use and have my close friends and family use the newest possible iPhones. The reason is that they collect photos and video of each other and in some cases these will be looked at or treasured for years to come.
I have a pal who has a baby coming and I reminded him to make sure he gets his iPhone upgrade program replacement done in time.
My mom's partner, I ask him to keep his updated because these are photos and video of my mom who won't be here forever.
Not only do these devices capture the most consistent, high fidelity data, you almost have to try to screw up having the data automatically backed up.
The cost of keeping the devices updated is relatively low, and the device switch process has improved __every__ year.
New devices require new OS's which get the most attention and latest patches, etc.
Yep, you're old and jaded. I can relate. iPhones and almost all of their features are old news and they're mostly pushing iterative updates or advanced features most people don't have a use for yet (satellite connectivity).
Still fantastic technology no doubt, but certainly not the wow of 10 years ago.
I would appreciate if articles reviewing cameras did a better job of explaining why the pixel count is just a single (and highly manipulable) measure of imaging merit.
For all the pixel count, no company ever talks about pixel size (physical) and the noise characteristic as a result or the effective resolution. The imaging chip has not gotten physically larger between iPhones, I assume, so the pixels are just dividing the same light into more sites. Is this better?
People who don't know will just assume that 48 MP, well that's better than a Sony A7RIII now, right? Of course not.
The article is very explicitly aimed at photographers, it's on a photographer's website, it's a review about only the camera, the conclusion is titled "buying advice for photographers", etc.
If he was to explain what determines image quality, why not also demand that he explains aperture, focal length, etc.? It's just not aimed at that public.
I'm not sure you are right here. The sensor size (and the lens speed) has been one of the key things Apple marketing has been leaning towards in the last few generations. Tech reviewers tend to repeat it back to their audience, which eventually lead to general consensus of Apple's camera system being superior.
I continue to find the iPhone's "night" photos underwhelming compared to Google Pixel's (haven't tested other Android devices). Google seems to be doing a much better job at stacking or other Computational Photography tricks.
Considering Apple's marketing focuses so much on the camera, and they have so much experience in the domain, I'm kind of shocked they continue to be so disappointing.
Perhaps it's a style decision.
(I certainly haven't tried playing with RAW, that's beyond my level of care.)
Quite impressive when they shot at 48MP, but the pictures taken at 12MP just look like your bad, few generations old, non-pro iPhone photo.
As a very amateur photograph that doesn't want to carry his DSLR all the time I considered getting it for the 48MP but after reading the review and seeing what would be most of the pictures I would take (the 12MP ones), it's a hard pass.
I'm upgrading my iPhone 13 mini because having switched from a Pixel 4a, the camera performance is just unacceptably bad. It's a testament to how much I like the rest of the iPhone that I didn't just go back to the pixel. I briefly considered carrying the Pixel around just to take pictures.
Yeah... I love my iPhone XS Max, partly because it has 2x telephoto--not 2.5x, not 3x or 4x of all the ridiculous things: just a good 2x--and I essentially use that 2x telephoto lens every chance I can. They finally have come up with an iPhone that has brought back 2x telephoto... but as a digital simulation from 1x and thereby only at 12MP, and so it isn't fundamentally different than my existing phone :/. (I do appreciate that the low light abilities are probably better, and maybe that should be worth it to quickly upgrade before they screw up 2x again.)
That’s an odd takeaway from the article. You can trivially switch between 12MP and 48MP. Why not just… switch to 48MP when you want the extra resolution, and otherwise stick to 12MP. Perhaps switch to 48MP when you would otherwise use your DSLR…?
get a mirrorless... DSLR are old, can't even compare these 48mp images to say a Sony at 48mp well i guess if your not that into printing large and only viewing your images on facebook i guess its fine.
This is an excellent video review by Peter McKinnon. I really like his studio shot comparison between his Canon mirrorless camera and the iPhone 14 Pro.
I don’t think it’s any surprise that a smartphone can capture a decent image in perfect lighting conditions. That’s been the case for a while. You’ll notice though that all pro photographers still reach for their real camera when the quality of the pictures matter.
I came here to comment this too. It works surprisingly well. Perfect for using your iPad in bed (someone's got to get the Sudokus done..) while someone else is sleeping or something as you can go extremely dark and extremely red, hurting no-one's eyes at all.
This is a first world problem: the flash that appears in their flagship Live Photos photo/video feature has ruined some great vacation photos that were hard to take.
I don't know if this is fixed in the iPhone 14 / iOS 16.
I'm really conflicted about if I'm going to be shooting in 48MP or 12MP for normal use. Most of my photos are taken of friends in casual settings and used for social media. Many times a good shot requires capturing a number of photos in sequence, with all but one or two discarded.
The local file storage and backup capacity requirements for 48MP are going to get crazy. I may only shoot in 48MP in rare cases when I really want the super quality and normally leave in 12MP mode.
You say that and then you try to zoom in and 48MP instead of 12MP might get you a number plate or a face or a bird identification or whatever. As well as rather a lot of pixels on modern phones, we also have things like review videos attached to photos and they take up space too.
Nowadays we have stupidly large amounts of storage available. I recall my Commodore 64 ...
It all ... depends. Do you want the flexibility to be able zoom in or not? Do you want to long term store your photos or not? If you can't be bothered with storage management and don't need very high resolution then dial it down and off you trot but you do have a choice.
Haven't gotten my hands on it yet but, from the videos I've seen, you're able to turn 48MP right from within the camera app. I've also seen a spot in videos to switch video modes also.
Yeah I wish there was an easy way to automatically delete all but 1 or 2 of the shots from a set. Kind of like how they let you easily discard all but one of a burst.
I though era of "more megapixel = better picture" is gone, but apparently not.
All that matters in technical quality of cameras is dynamic range. That is related to sensor size, more specific to pixel size that has ability to absorb light. It is simple physics.
I would agree with you, but read about what they’re actually doing with this camera.
They’re actually binning the pixels back down to the same resolution as before and only using the extra size to enhance sharpness and dynamic range. You only actually get higher resolution if you shoot raw.
But your eyeballs are still better than cameras, or at least what we see is better than an image taken of the same thing. Maybe it makes sense that we have not hit the absolute limits. Although these cameras are smaller than you eyeballs. Might not make sense to compare digital cameras to eyeballs yet.
Feels like the iPhone could use a micro SD card at this point. If I'm gonna use a phone as a cinema camera, shooting 4k and 48 MP stills I don't want to be clogging up my bandwidth uploading a ton of footage to iCloud when I'm probably going to cut it in Premiere or something on my desktop.
My drone is like this — it has an internal hard drive, but it's way more flexible and convenient to shoot to its optional micro SD card.
At 48MP these things are starting to tread on the territory of the "super resolution" mode of my Olympus camera body. Of course, the top-of-the-lone iPhone is also larger than that camera body in 2 out of 4 relevant dimensions, and costs more. The new iPhones are so big and so expensive that the idea that I would rather carry one than a big expensive camera is starting to seem questionable. In fact, if I had a choice, I am quite sure I'd rather my camera with a cheap lens were stolen, rather than my iPhone.
Cinematic mode for me is a bust. At 30 fps it was extremely choppy when I panned side to side, which makes it unusable. I was shocked at how bad it looked so I’m wondering how 24 fps can be any better.
I’m in doubt if I should upgrade from 12 Pro Max.
Please share your opinion.
The main reason for the upgrade for me is a better camera. Is the difference noticeable between 12 Pro Max and 14 Pro?
I found mrwhosetheboss youtube comparison against the Samsung S22 ultra helpful too. Very interesting how different the approaches are despite both being aimed at top end
My 13 Pro is so good, and it sounds like there are still issues with 48 megapixel photos (a lag in processing the files, compatibility.) I'll wait till the next model.
rcarr|3 years ago
qbasic_forever|3 years ago
With Garmin devices you can text both ways and it has been shown in many rescues to be a huge advantage at getting the right search and rescue or other team to you faster--they can find out what the situation is and if they need to skip right to a helicopter rescue for example. If I were an avid hiker I wouldn't ditch the Garmin just yet (but hopefully in a year or two we'll see if Apple and others try to compete in the satellite rescue beacon world and offer comparable features).
nzrf|3 years ago
There are still situations I think sos on iPhone 14 does make sense. Like driving in middle of nowhere without signal and having car troubles.
I would also though agree people may get this false sense of safety, but I’m sure having something is better than nothing and having 2 options is better then 1 and maybe someone else hiking may find an someone who needs emergency help and doesn’t have inreach and able to help. The iPhone isn’t useless as sos device, but I will know I’ll be counting on my inreach on my adventures as my emergency beacon even if I did have iPhone 14.
MBCook|3 years ago
creativenolo|3 years ago
He does not say this. He explicitly says he did carry his garmin when in Scotland. From the article:
> (for the last week in Scotland, we’ve not had cell service), so I have a Garmin inReach MINI I carry with me
The author's point was that he travels a lot in the US and abroad, and that he will keep his Garmin but use it less and pause his subscription more often.
This is a blog post about the iPhone being reflected upon whilst in Scotland, which makes it a good read. If it were an advertorial, I see how you could jump this critique on it. But it's not.
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jxramos|3 years ago
I remember telling someone about this great image sensor on the old OnePlus One a friend gave me years outside of its lifecycle and how it takes pretty amazing photos. I wonder if it was just a function of no image processing, and my steady hand from years of photography and breath-holding practice to manually stabilize my photos.
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ksec|3 years ago
I remember the old Apple guards used to trash the Samsung / Android photo as being unrealistic. How the tide has turned.
The new Apple resembles very little of the old Apple.
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londons_explore|3 years ago
There needs to be a new metric that reflects the whole user journey of using the camera - from figuring out how it works, to taking new photos when one came out bad. How many attempts to get a photo of a serial number label down behind the dishwasher..? Do pictures of the moon look terrible because the lens has fingerprints all over and the user doesn't realise? Can the camera run at the same time as google maps navigation and an audiobook without lag?
ValentineC|3 years ago
> These pains offloading media are not a new issue specific to the iPhone 14 Pro, and I really hope it is solved soon.
I'm surprised that he didn't consider AirDrop as a means of getting photos out. That's how I transfer most of the photos I need to edit on my MacBook these days.
0x38B|3 years ago
The phone shows up as a camera with photos, as well.
1: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/gvfs
2: https://apps.gnome.org/app/org.gnome.Nautilus/
3: https://nexus.armylane.com/files/Gnome-Nautilus-iPhone.png
morpheuskafka|3 years ago
I don't think I've plugged an iPhone into my MacBook other than to charge on a trip since the last time I was into jailbreaking and was running checkra1n.
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stanislavb|3 years ago
Given that they still sell iPhone 14 with regular SIM cards, why wouldn't they allow that option in the US ¯\_(ツ)_/¯!?
JumpCrisscross|3 years ago
Floppy disks. Java. Disk drives. Headphone jacks. This is Apple’s M.O.
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warning26|3 years ago
So for Apple to pitch this as "wow, it's a new system where instead of just putting in a sim card you have to grovel to your carrier to set up your phone", it hardly strikes me as better UX.
trevor-e|3 years ago
another counterpoint: I just got back from a trip in Europe and had to swap my sim card back when we landed. I forgot to ask for the small (and easily losable) tool they give you to pop open the tray, but luckily my SO had an earring that was able to fit.
GeekyBear|3 years ago
It's not in their best interests to allow friction free price shopping.
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https://adobe.ly/3qEZRVx
(Lightroom won’t let me share both my edit and the unedited original but the blueish picture was taken at almost the same time and had the same general look as the edited picture.)
I’m not sure who would like the unedited version of the picture but I get weird color issues like this all the time on my mini. Here’s another one of my kid:
https://adobe.ly/3UerPEY
For anyone who has a doubt, I testify that my kid is not red and those cliffs were not blue.
Worst thing is it’s totally unpredictable when the issue is gonna crop up. It doesn’t happen in every picture. I don’t know what someone would do with a camera like this if they didn’t know how to edit to fix the colors.
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astrange|3 years ago
The other one seems like a bug. Could always go complain about it.
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n8cpdx|3 years ago
Compelling upgrades would be: another small variant (or smaller than 14 pro at least), something foldable (maybe, if done really really well), significantly improved battery life, bike computer functionality (CarPlay for bikes), or significantly improved performance (in a few years, maybe the 12 mini will be noticeably slow in 2024).
The curse of releasing devices with hardware that’s 3-5 years ahead of the competition in delivered performance (not just feature checklists) is that unless you wait 4+ years, new models don’t always feel like upgrades.
seanp2k2|3 years ago
eyelidlessness|3 years ago
My interest in hardware revisions has only grown in recent years, particularly in mobile devices. I’m not gonna go rush off and buy a new iPhone, I’m quite pleased with my 13 Pro Max and upgrading now would feel horribly wasteful. But I’m continually awed by advancements in mobile camera technology, and whenever I do upgrade it feels as much like magic as when I got my first newer game console (NES -> SNES) as a kid. But to be clear, my interest here is almost completely in the camera, and I pretty much view my phone as a really nice camera with convenient computing and network affordances included for some almost inexplicable reason.
To a lesser extent, recent advances in chips has also had me pining to upgrade a perfectly good laptop which again would feel wasteful to do now, but I expect when the time comes it’ll feel similarly revelatory even if that’s more incremental just because I’ve been upgrading the same sorts of things for much longer.
It’s okay, probably even good, that you don’t feel the same way about the device upgrade treadmill. A slower upgrade cycle would be objectively good for a lot of more important things. I’m not going to try to convince you a new iPhone is something you should want even for “free”. Just offering personal perspective why I find the new one exciting even if I’ll skip it.
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OGWhales|3 years ago
I was excited when I got the iPhone 13 Pro because of the LiDAR ToF sensor and being able to utilize Apple’s new object capture API. I was also excited to have a zoom lens, as my old phone (iPhone 7) did not have one. These were all things I had a clear use case for, so it makes sense I was excited for the upgrade.
I think it’s okay to not be excited when you don’t have a reason to be. Don’t assume that means you’re old and jaded.
bredren|3 years ago
I have a pal who has a baby coming and I reminded him to make sure he gets his iPhone upgrade program replacement done in time.
My mom's partner, I ask him to keep his updated because these are photos and video of my mom who won't be here forever.
Not only do these devices capture the most consistent, high fidelity data, you almost have to try to screw up having the data automatically backed up.
The cost of keeping the devices updated is relatively low, and the device switch process has improved __every__ year. New devices require new OS's which get the most attention and latest patches, etc.
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micromacrofoot|3 years ago
Still fantastic technology no doubt, but certainly not the wow of 10 years ago.
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modernpink|3 years ago
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supernova87a|3 years ago
For all the pixel count, no company ever talks about pixel size (physical) and the noise characteristic as a result or the effective resolution. The imaging chip has not gotten physically larger between iPhones, I assume, so the pixels are just dividing the same light into more sites. Is this better?
People who don't know will just assume that 48 MP, well that's better than a Sony A7RIII now, right? Of course not.
iLoveOncall|3 years ago
If he was to explain what determines image quality, why not also demand that he explains aperture, focal length, etc.? It's just not aimed at that public.
gpt5|3 years ago
AceJohnny2|3 years ago
Considering Apple's marketing focuses so much on the camera, and they have so much experience in the domain, I'm kind of shocked they continue to be so disappointing.
Perhaps it's a style decision.
(I certainly haven't tried playing with RAW, that's beyond my level of care.)
iLoveOncall|3 years ago
As a very amateur photograph that doesn't want to carry his DSLR all the time I considered getting it for the 48MP but after reading the review and seeing what would be most of the pictures I would take (the 12MP ones), it's a hard pass.
ahepp|3 years ago
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localhost|3 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh9wNWA6bSQ
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rexf|3 years ago
This is a first world problem: the flash that appears in their flagship Live Photos photo/video feature has ruined some great vacation photos that were hard to take.
I don't know if this is fixed in the iPhone 14 / iOS 16.
julienb_sea|3 years ago
The local file storage and backup capacity requirements for 48MP are going to get crazy. I may only shoot in 48MP in rare cases when I really want the super quality and normally leave in 12MP mode.
gerdesj|3 years ago
Nowadays we have stupidly large amounts of storage available. I recall my Commodore 64 ...
It all ... depends. Do you want the flexibility to be able zoom in or not? Do you want to long term store your photos or not? If you can't be bothered with storage management and don't need very high resolution then dial it down and off you trot but you do have a choice.
dkonofalski|3 years ago
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t0bia_s|3 years ago
All that matters in technical quality of cameras is dynamic range. That is related to sensor size, more specific to pixel size that has ability to absorb light. It is simple physics.
Those who need camera sensor quality should check this charts: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm
aikinai|3 years ago
They’re actually binning the pixels back down to the same resolution as before and only using the extra size to enhance sharpness and dynamic range. You only actually get higher resolution if you shoot raw.
2muchcoffeeman|3 years ago
gdubs|3 years ago
My drone is like this — it has an internal hard drive, but it's way more flexible and convenient to shoot to its optional micro SD card.
iLoveOncall|3 years ago
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Magi604|3 years ago
Dxomark does very thorough comparison tests. I will wait for their results.
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