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rustybelt | 3 years ago

Unless the entire narrative you laid out is the result of a propaganda campaign. I don't think it is in this case, but the presence of this quantity of bots pushing a certain perspective does make me question my assumptions and worry how I'm being influenced in cases that are not nearly as black and white as Ukraine vs Russia.

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tut-urut-utut|3 years ago

If you see Ukraine vs Russia as black and white, it means you are already manipulated. The conflict didn't start on 24th of February this year. Even if the press pretends it's all clear, there's a long history of events full of nuances going back hundreds of years that can paint the current events in one or other colour.

dvfjsdhgfv|3 years ago

Yes, the story is long. Yes, there are many Russians in Ukraine, especially in the East. Yes, there were some alt-right people in Ukraine, too. No, none of these justifies starting a full-scale war, killing thousands of people.

hendersoon|3 years ago

Can you go into any detail on historical events which a reasonable person might feel justify the Russian invasion of Ukraine?

rustybelt|3 years ago

Trust me, I see your point. I was trying to be diplomatic considering the dominant perspective.

Mikeb85|3 years ago

> hundreds of years

Yes hundreds of years of Ukraine being oppressed by Russia (also western powers at times)... Meanwhile when did Ukraine EVER attack Russia?