[mhneu]

It's not just the word liberal, which means something different for most Americans than its meaning in other countries. In Australia, the Liberal party is the conservatives who are allied with Murdoch.

The word "neoliberal" is also a problem. It is used negatively and aimed at a broad swath of center-left to center-right.

But in other countries, the people called "neoliberals" would be understood to be conservatives. Instead of using "n*liberals", we should be calling them "conservatives". Larry Summers, for example, is a conservative.

[eternalban]

We should start using descriptive names. It is hard to confuse just who are the "money decides and confers authority" party from the "not everything is about money" party to "god speaks to me and says this is how you do it" party. Also those donkeys and elephants are pretty ambiguous as well. How about snakes and scorpions? Isn't that more descriptive?

[SamBam]

This is a completely mistaken use of the word "neoliberal." Neoliberalism refers to a worldview that thinks in terms of market-oriented policies, global trade, privatization, etc. You thinking it has something to do with wokism or OK symbols is a perfect example of the word being used incorrectly.

[rr888]

I'm really not sure who you're talking about now. Sounds like Russian BS. Do you have a source for any of these three things?

> were pushing for the OK sign to be classified as a hate symbol used by secret Nazis

> Ukraine having 20% of it's army wear literal swastikas

> Today they argue that [Ukraine swastikas] isn't that bad.