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zionic | 3 years ago

Starship E2E (earth 2 earth) will make in-atmo supersonic pointless.

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jraines|3 years ago

If you’re healthy enough to withstand 3 Gs and they make rocketry about a million times safer

zionic|3 years ago

E2E payload weight will be much lower than typical LEO configs, total altitude lower. You don't need to circularize etc etc.

This means you can spend more fuel/be less efficient overall for a much more comfortable acceleration profile.

In terms of safety, starship will fly hundreds, perhaps thousands of times before people fly on them. They'll get there.

crystaldecanter|3 years ago

what’s the seat-kilometre fuel burn on this compared to sub and supersonic jets?

wongarsu|3 years ago

If passenger density was comparable to a typical airliner, an intercontinental E2E flight should be roughly comparable to a subsonic flight. The supersonic flight would be substantially worse. Rockets have the advantage that they very rapidly get out of the dense part of the atmosphere.

In reality a Starship flight would probably sell few very expensive seats instead; just like Boom's aircraft only has 50 seats. Which would make it worse than subsonic flights in terms of fuel used, but still competitive with supersonic.

zionic|3 years ago

Should be much better, you spend most of the time coasting and most of your acceleration in very thin atmosphere, vs a plane that has to cruise down in the soup.

Also, starship has more pressurized volume than a 747. You can fit a lot of people.

ramesh31|3 years ago

I have a feeling most normal people will be reticent to strap themselves into a suborbital rocket.

qayxc|3 years ago

And don't forget the required pressure suits. You can't just to use simple masks like in airplanes, since cabin pressure loss at heights beyond 25km would make breathing using just oxygen masks impossible.

Ekaros|3 years ago

And would such craft be allowed to launch from your average airport?

dylan604|3 years ago

Does a cruise ship launch from your average airport?

zionic|3 years ago

A short boat ride off the coast is all it will take to get form NY to Tokyo in 40 minutes or less. Worth it.

foobiekr|3 years ago

This is never going to happen for safety, cost and noise reasons. It's just more Musk fraud.