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stonewareslord | 3 years ago

What do you mean meme storm? Switching to Firefox makes you immune to annoying changes like this... I honestly don't understand why more people, especially on hn, haven't switched over still.

As a Firefox user, articles like this are just noise, not a possible attack on my personal privacy. When was the last technical scandal with Firefox? Adding an optional bookmarking service? How are people still defending chrome?

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therealmarv|3 years ago

Security (not privacy): Firefox has shown in Pwn2Own contests and in security circles that it is not as secure as Chrome. Mainly because of overall security architecture and sandboxing techniques involved (remember the Chrome comic, I think even current Firefox has not implemented all security sandboxing which Chrome had from day 1). Firefox is trying to catch up but is overall behind. So there you have your technical disadvantage. I feel personally saver to visit unknown sites with a current Chrome based browser than with Firefox.

Also if you compare from a fingerprinting side of view then Brave is better than Firefox+uBlock (and all privacy lists involved). You can compare that easily between your Firefox and Brave here: https://coveryourtracks.eff.org/

For me personally I also don't want to miss Chromecast capabilities (it's a nice system and unfortunately there is no good alternative) in my mobile browser.

dsissitka|3 years ago

I tried to make the switch after last week's uBlock Origin Lite post but there are just so many rough edges. For example:

1) You go to https://i.imgur.com/vuUyLnz.gifv.

2) You decide to skip the beginning so you "Right Click > Show Controls" and use the controls to skip the beginning.

3) You decide to skip to the end so you move your mouse over to where the controls should be but they don't reappear.

4) They're gone and the only way to get them back is to "Right Click > Show Controls" again.

There are a lot of rough edges like that. I'd almost rather not use browsers than use Firefox in its current state.

stonewareslord|3 years ago

Is it not this way in chrome too? I know imgur messes with the ui for no good reason.

Your other commentmentions i.imgur.com being the case? Maybe libredirext can help you never hit the i. Site?

kevingadd|3 years ago

imgur is intentionally disabling the controls in order to show their custom buggy ones, I don't know what you expect Firefox to do here.

bobsmooth|3 years ago

>Switching to Firefox makes you immune to annoying changes like this.

cough Proton cough

That being said, most of the extensions I use have survived the last two years of Firefox development.

stonewareslord|3 years ago

Yes quantum was rough... I still miss vimperator. Though the speed increase was nice. Thank you, I did forget about this actually

cetahfh14615|3 years ago

> cough Proton cough

I'd take Proton any day over a neutered ad blocker

latexr|3 years ago

> Switching to Firefox makes you immune to annoying changes like this

Unfortunately it does not, as other replies and plenty of HN Firefox posts demonstrate.

> I honestly don't understand why more people, especially on hn, haven't switched over still.

There are several important areas where Firefox is lacking. Automation on macOS is one of them (it’s the sole major browser without AppleScript support) but in every thread I see people complaining of something different.

I use neither Firefox nor Chrome. I don’t want to support Google, but it’s also not feasible to use Firefox as my daily driver or to support it in the tools I release.

vdfs|3 years ago

Actually even firefox is switching to V3 and deprecating V2, they are keeping request blocking (main problem with v3) but why are they just following google?

perryizgr8|3 years ago

> why are they just following google?

Mozilla gets 95% of its revenue directly from Google.

justanorherhack|3 years ago

The extension management ui is terrible in Firefox and I haven’t been able to figure out how to disable or manage many multiple extensions.

stonewareslord|3 years ago

You can't in bulk as far as I know, but can't you just go to about:addons in the URL bar? I don't use more than 5 anymore. How many do you have?

Am4TIfIsER0ppos|3 years ago

> Switching to Firefox makes you immune to annoying changes like this

No it fucking doesn't. Firefox have been aping chrome since version 4 and really sealed the deal with version ... 29, I think.

pas|3 years ago

what does this mean in practice?