[kovrik]

Really? I have the opposite experience. I _want_ to love CL but Clojure wins when it comes to IDE support and libs and documentation.

Maybe it's just me but I find (SB)CL tooling to be very obscure: ASDF, QuickLisp, Roswell etc. My main issue with it is that it's all written in CL itself and doesn't provide handy CLI tools to execute common tasks (compile app, build package, run tests, deploy etc.). Not to mention that documentation is horrendous.

Basically, I want it to have something like Maven/Gradle/Leiningen to manage dependencies, run tasks and so on. Am I missing something?

[ilrwbwrkhv]

ros init and ros build should be everything. And emacs for the tooling. Quicklisp for dependency management. Having said that even CL is not perfect. Something like https://fresh.deno.dev/ is so much better when it comes to presentation and ease of use.