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vnkr | 3 years ago

Cloudflare is a tool. Website owners use this tool to solve the challenges they face. You are shouting at a wrench.

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abracadabra_|3 years ago

Cloudflare is a company that makes the tool. We're not shouting at the wrench, we are shouting at the maker of the wrench.

pcdoodle|3 years ago

We have no problem blaming the tool and manufacturer when it comes to firearms.

bell-cot|3 years ago

Yes. And judging by how many Americans die of gunshot wounds each year, and how many guns are sold, and the profits of the major gun manufacturers - how successful is that "blame the tool and manufacturer" strategy?

(Or is "success", for the anti-gun crowd, mostly about winning performative virtue contests in their own social media bubbles - while tens of thousands of "99.9% of 'em aren't like us, so we only pretend to care" people die?)

MEANWHILE, back at the Greatest Hypocrite Playoffs - I clicked on the link in a browser with cookies and js blocked. The article's web page (at Imgur.com) only says:

   "If you're seeing this message, that means JavaScript has been disabled on your browser, please enable JS to make Imgur work."
(Privacy Badger & NoScript say they're blocking cookies from 6+ domains, and js from 12+ domains & subdomains. I know of Cloudflare-protected sites where allowing cookies from 1 domain and js from 2 subdomains are plenty to make them work right.)

Arnt|3 years ago

We have no problem blaming anyone, rightly or wrongly. Twitter is a fountain of blame, there's enough for everyone.

You can blame me, I think. I haven't done it yet, but I can see the day coming where one of the sites I maintain will move behind Cloudflare. That site gets too much shit. The other day Little Bobby Tables browsed the site, and it wasn't the first time. I have to choose: Deal with the low-level shit or require javascript from a bunch of users who mostly have that enabled anyway. So blame me, and all the site operators who face the same choice.