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vucetica | 3 years ago

This community is funny at times.

A lot of people had their opinions on those two threads, didn't they?

Kudos to the ones who questioned the origin of the phenomenon instead of declaring immediately that the world is falling.

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aleksiy123|3 years ago

It's not even at times. It's all the time. Theres many threads where the actual information is sparse but people sound extremely confident about their conclusions. Makes me realise that much of the time people are just making stuff up, there's just nobody to call them out.

JimDabell|3 years ago

You’re not kidding. From the earlier discussion:

> this is the exact same technology Apple lets China use to hunt down their religious and political minorities

> one thing is for certain; Apple doesn't treat privacy as a human right. If you can live with that, then more power to you.

Something tells me people won’t use this as an excuse to accuse Firefox of human rights abuses though.

TillE|3 years ago

Yeah and to be clear, that's not merely an HN thing, or an internet thing. People - even people who seem very clever - generally have no idea what they're talking about.

It's sort of exhilarating to truly understand just how much of the world is built on absolute bullshit.

bitwize|3 years ago

Hackernews has a whole lot of smart people, but the dark matter of the Hackernews universe is the much larger number of schlubs who cosplay as smart people online.

epakai|3 years ago

Why bother calling them out? That would require considering and denying their claims. It is much easier to make your own stuff up.

smoldesu|3 years ago

It's equally funny to see the collective sigh-of-relief expressed through this post's upvotes. OCSP is real and can hurt you, warrantless iCloud access still goes un-mitigated, but thank God! The QR code IP leak turned out to be a fake. Who knew MacOS was a nice and private operating system all along?

derbOac|3 years ago

So... I think replication was needed and have a MacBook myself. However, the claim in question was tricky to verify because it was supposedly occuring over the course of days.

I also think it says a lot about collective anxieties over not using an open OS. The scanning wasn't happening but it was plausible and there wasn't really much to do about it other than try to verify it.

I think the episode says less about collective unwarranted paranoia and more about collective vulnerabilities.

I still am scratching my head about the new tweet though. It doesn't say the scanning isn't happening, just that it's not MacOS.

Tijdreiziger|3 years ago

OK, now how do we solve it?

I’ve been thinking about this problem a lot. It seems to me you either go full send on the privacy front -> use FLOSS operating systems and self-host Nextcloud, or you want the comforts of modern apps and services -> buy into Apple’s or Google’s ecosystem.

There exists no option where you get to keep your privacy and enjoy modern technology.