[gamjQZnHT53AMa]

Sounds like you're suggesting to him that he gets himself put on the "managed out" list. I get your point completely, and agree with it to an extent. But if I put myself in that position, what would I do? I'd like to think I'd take the honorable approach you suggested, but I've also got bills to pay, kids to support, plans I want to achieve. Getting myself "managed out" at the expense of all of those things would be hugely problematic.

[bayraktar]

Getting myself "managed out" at the expense of all of those things would be hugely problematic.

Agreed - and corporate life often gets that way.

But another way of looking at the payoff matrix might be: "I've got kids to support - and that means having parents they can trust, and look up to in this chaotic and morally ambivalent world. Even if it means we might have to work a year or two more before being able to retire more comfortably, or we might not get to take that vacation to Tulum this year."

[bryanrasmussen]

>I've got kids to support - and that means having parents they can trust, and look up to in this chaotic and morally ambivalent world.

that's a high level of Maslow's hierarchy there, especially in the U.S with few support nets heading into what will probably be a really bad recession.

[ohgodplsno]

If you're a manager at Amazon (which is already known for being barely a level above sweat shops in terms of employee treatment), and even more if you're part of their tech (which, if you're posting on HN, you most likely are), you're making so much money that if you can't afford to spend 6 months without a job, you're frankly irresponsible with your cash.

[itronitron]

Consider that many other employees also have bills to pay, kids to support, plans they want to achieve...