Also, what's the deal with the tone of the economist article? In the past I found them terse, detached and aloof, a little bit arrogant. This has the nyt/atlantic feel of someone who fancies themselves an undiscovered future award winner trying to write about the human side and choosing feelings over facts and analysis.
Derek chauvin was born three years after George Floyd, and grew up in Cottage Grove, a suburb of the Twin Cities 20 miles from the corner where one man killed the other
I understand that some journalists write like this, but I'm surprised to see that stile in the economist
But due to being human, I just call myself an Earthling. This despite my heritage being from multiple cultures (8?) from around the world, some of them very long lived within their family trees. If you were to do a full deep dive on my lineage, you would find that my bloodline goes back not just decades, or even centuries, but millenniums. Technically, so too does everyone else who is alive today, for we all came from some line of apes that evolved or another. And that's ignoring all the stuff about Neanderthals and such.
To me, it doesn't matter who you are, what you look like, or where you came from. What you believe is another matter, since there are wrong opinions about many things abound, but I tend to leave that alone; because arguing with idiots is a good way to lose to them when idiocy outnumbers intelligence since the days of the stone age. (With some exceptions thanks to the coincidental silver lining of plagues.)
To me, people who focus solely on race in any fashion, need to stop. Not only is it not rational, but it's divisive. Which is why politicians love using it in some form or another, when we start to get along again; and most intelligent people know that politicians are less trustworthy than some random person on the internet.
Yet we keep falling for their bullshit. Why?
Because we deeply want to belong to something more than just ourselves, I think. And when that thing we belong to is supposedly threatened by another group inside or out of our own group, we fight them.
Doesn't matter which group, it's the same for all.
Now excuse me while I go back to trying to get things put together in my own life so I can make a place for people who think like me where we can escape the rest who obsess about race, colour or creed.
You're all welcome to join me, though it may take some of you time to de-escalate your emotions over these sorts of things.
> Because we deeply want to belong to something more than just ourselves, I think.
I think in most cases it's simpler than that. People go along with this kind of BS because they are afraid of being labeled as racist (and in doing so, ironically perpetuate racism). It's a shortcut that special interest have found so shut down discussion: "you're with us or you're racist (or some other 'phobic'") and people end up going along for the most part
As rude as your comment may come off to some, you are correct about at least one thing.
Push from one side of politics too far, and the other side will swell up to meet that push. Hegel tried to teach us this, and Jung to some extent as well. It's often referred to as the political pendulum by folk like I, and we often think it best to be left alone in the center, with anyone daring touch it being given wide berth and sometimes complete avoidance. Only under the more important issues will touching it be allowable, and even then only lightly with extreme care.
Since there is a lot of commentary on this subject matter, I will just link you the google search term so you can pick and choose your own preferred source on the subject matter. It all ultimately comes to the same conclusion. We need to leave the pendulum alone, and keep overtons window as close to center as possible, with only little swings when needed for the good of society.
Being white and not self-loathing is practically a hate-crime these days. If you happen to be male and heterosexual too, you're worse than Hitler and should begin self-flagellation immediately.
Personally I find it offensive to be continually lectured on what a rich, over-priveleged piece of shit I am, just because I was born white. By people with more wealth and privilege than anyone in my working class family has ever enjoyed.
Political correctness, and its never-ending hammering on an already open door, has actually made me more racist of late, where I wasn't at all before.
> Being white and not self-loathing is practically a hate-crime these days.
...in the USA. In other parts of the world, not so much. Unfortunately, the USA has enormous influence on the culture in other countries: through business culture, tech giants and so on. So many of these alien concepts transpire to societies where they make little sense.
polygamous_bat|3 years ago
version_five|3 years ago
Manu40|3 years ago
But due to being human, I just call myself an Earthling. This despite my heritage being from multiple cultures (8?) from around the world, some of them very long lived within their family trees. If you were to do a full deep dive on my lineage, you would find that my bloodline goes back not just decades, or even centuries, but millenniums. Technically, so too does everyone else who is alive today, for we all came from some line of apes that evolved or another. And that's ignoring all the stuff about Neanderthals and such.
To me, it doesn't matter who you are, what you look like, or where you came from. What you believe is another matter, since there are wrong opinions about many things abound, but I tend to leave that alone; because arguing with idiots is a good way to lose to them when idiocy outnumbers intelligence since the days of the stone age. (With some exceptions thanks to the coincidental silver lining of plagues.)
To me, people who focus solely on race in any fashion, need to stop. Not only is it not rational, but it's divisive. Which is why politicians love using it in some form or another, when we start to get along again; and most intelligent people know that politicians are less trustworthy than some random person on the internet.
Yet we keep falling for their bullshit. Why?
Because we deeply want to belong to something more than just ourselves, I think. And when that thing we belong to is supposedly threatened by another group inside or out of our own group, we fight them.
Doesn't matter which group, it's the same for all.
Now excuse me while I go back to trying to get things put together in my own life so I can make a place for people who think like me where we can escape the rest who obsess about race, colour or creed.
You're all welcome to join me, though it may take some of you time to de-escalate your emotions over these sorts of things.
version_five|3 years ago
> Because we deeply want to belong to something more than just ourselves, I think.
I think in most cases it's simpler than that. People go along with this kind of BS because they are afraid of being labeled as racist (and in doing so, ironically perpetuate racism). It's a shortcut that special interest have found so shut down discussion: "you're with us or you're racist (or some other 'phobic'") and people end up going along for the most part
version_five|3 years ago
throwawayallday|3 years ago
It's a neo-Nazi White supremacist myth that the White population is declining! It's not happening but I'm glad that it is!
No way this doesn't get [flagged] by the end of the night.
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Manu40|3 years ago
Push from one side of politics too far, and the other side will swell up to meet that push. Hegel tried to teach us this, and Jung to some extent as well. It's often referred to as the political pendulum by folk like I, and we often think it best to be left alone in the center, with anyone daring touch it being given wide berth and sometimes complete avoidance. Only under the more important issues will touching it be allowable, and even then only lightly with extreme care.
Since there is a lot of commentary on this subject matter, I will just link you the google search term so you can pick and choose your own preferred source on the subject matter. It all ultimately comes to the same conclusion. We need to leave the pendulum alone, and keep overtons window as close to center as possible, with only little swings when needed for the good of society.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Political+Pendulum+Hegel&ei=...
acapybara|3 years ago
codefreeordie|3 years ago
Normille|3 years ago
Personally I find it offensive to be continually lectured on what a rich, over-priveleged piece of shit I am, just because I was born white. By people with more wealth and privilege than anyone in my working class family has ever enjoyed.
Political correctness, and its never-ending hammering on an already open door, has actually made me more racist of late, where I wasn't at all before.
hdjjhhvvhga|3 years ago
...in the USA. In other parts of the world, not so much. Unfortunately, the USA has enormous influence on the culture in other countries: through business culture, tech giants and so on. So many of these alien concepts transpire to societies where they make little sense.
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