That may not even be necessary at this point. Chinese nationals I know all went to US/Australia/UK universities but their younger siblings seem to be much more enamored with the Chinese universities in tier 1 cities instead. Combination of growing nationalism and decreased prestige with graduating with an international degree.
For a long time (basically forever) China hasn't really invented anything of it's own. China has a large, complex, and well run espionage network responsible for stealing trade secrets from western companies. There's a great book, Disunited Nations, that talks about it in gory detail. Essentially, China will steal anything it can and build it locally. Espionage like this is generally expected (even among allies) but the scale at which China operates this is breathtaking. Majority of the large scale hacks they have done in recent history are targeting organizations with special IP (for example military technology).
So, knowing this I would assume they will simply use this system to get access to patents for the chips they need and begin fabrication themselves. This blow slows them down but doesn't stop them. To stop them, you'd need to stop their well oiled espionage machine.
It was the Chinese that pushed through RISC-V at the end of the day.
They are allocating absolutely ridiculous amounts of capital towards building their own lithography expertise now.
Trump pretty much forced Biden's hand when he stuck his dick in ASMLs relationship with China. By playing that card so early Biden effectively has to cut off access to TSMC, GlobalFoundries and Samsung for it to actually stick and not just have wasted the biggest and most important trade card W.R.T semiconductors.
People often talk about and accuse the Chinese government of being bad for its people, but in the absence of a better alternative their government is still the best thing for the people. What else would the people of China support?
If you really want to accuse the government of being bad then you must offer a better alternative. There was a point in time where any Chinese person would have given an arm and a leg for a visa to a western country. That’s now changing with the rising middle class in China. But if we really wanted to say the government is bad, then we also need to welcome their best and brightest, grant visas, and offer them an alternative.
Otherwise think about the impossible situation you levy on the ordinary Chinese citizen with rhetoric like “hey we don’t like how your government treats you because your government sucks, but also you can’t join our team. Therefore we will just fight you (in war) and you can either fight against us or help us fight your government (oh but sorry you still cannot join us).” Obviously the average Chinese person will most likely still support their own way of life and government, no matter how bad you think their government is for them, because at the end of the day you are not really doing anything better for them.
Even if you go and “liberate” them from the tyranny then what? Install a puppet government like in Afghanistan? Grant them all citizenship and annex it as part of the US (there are more Chinese people there so they would “take over” if that happened especially if we really believe in one vote per person)?
Where does this meme come from that China is this horror show held together only by torturing and enslaving their population into submission? The Chinese government gets its legitimacy from thousand year old traditions and the fact that the people there have more than doubled their incomes every decade and accordingly it enjoys massive public support. The American government is basically the exact opposite of that.
foepys|3 years ago
Do you have any numbers or sources on that?
TigeriusKirk|3 years ago
jpgvm|3 years ago
newsclues|3 years ago
Test0129|3 years ago
So, knowing this I would assume they will simply use this system to get access to patents for the chips they need and begin fabrication themselves. This blow slows them down but doesn't stop them. To stop them, you'd need to stop their well oiled espionage machine.
jpgvm|3 years ago
It was the Chinese that pushed through RISC-V at the end of the day.
They are allocating absolutely ridiculous amounts of capital towards building their own lithography expertise now.
Trump pretty much forced Biden's hand when he stuck his dick in ASMLs relationship with China. By playing that card so early Biden effectively has to cut off access to TSMC, GlobalFoundries and Samsung for it to actually stick and not just have wasted the biggest and most important trade card W.R.T semiconductors.
Vt71fcAqt7|3 years ago
PubliusMI|3 years ago
chrischen|3 years ago
If you really want to accuse the government of being bad then you must offer a better alternative. There was a point in time where any Chinese person would have given an arm and a leg for a visa to a western country. That’s now changing with the rising middle class in China. But if we really wanted to say the government is bad, then we also need to welcome their best and brightest, grant visas, and offer them an alternative.
Otherwise think about the impossible situation you levy on the ordinary Chinese citizen with rhetoric like “hey we don’t like how your government treats you because your government sucks, but also you can’t join our team. Therefore we will just fight you (in war) and you can either fight against us or help us fight your government (oh but sorry you still cannot join us).” Obviously the average Chinese person will most likely still support their own way of life and government, no matter how bad you think their government is for them, because at the end of the day you are not really doing anything better for them.
Even if you go and “liberate” them from the tyranny then what? Install a puppet government like in Afghanistan? Grant them all citizenship and annex it as part of the US (there are more Chinese people there so they would “take over” if that happened especially if we really believe in one vote per person)?
from|3 years ago