[hey2022]

You are saying that if someone takes free software and sells it (or distributes with the intention to monetize that service through ads) then that makes software not free? I disagree.

In the context of this discussion, there is a clear distinction between developers/companies that build truly free products vs free products that are intended to be monetized through selling user data or showing ads.

A service that tracks and sells user data in exchange for free downloads is a different product, has nothing to do with the original code/product that it might be distributing.

[invalidname]

That was very specifically NOT what I said. What I said was that this person *might* be using tracking and monetization methods that would flip the value proposition by leveraging your details and privacy.

The thing is that you have relatively limited ability to know the level of tracking that companies use.

I'm *not* saying that paying for software solves this problem. I'm saying that "free" isn't as simple an answer as yes or no. It's more nuanced.

[hey2022]

In that case I misunderstood you. Sure, we can’t always know all tracking details of closed source software, or even open source software with telemetry or some other tracking enabled.

The developer could be using harvested data for monetization. Or not. That’s a bit too speculative and borderline conspiratorial to be discussing.

I released free software myself, my friends have done the same - without any user tracking or ads. So anecdotally I can tell with confidence that free software does exist. Is all free software really free (as in not monetized by the developer in some hidden way)? No, not all.