cannot upvote this enough. DHH perfectly explained what is wrong with cloud. Constant gaslighting from cloud marketing about: capital costs, human cost, hardware cost, etc., while ignoring all negatives of cloud.
Cloud computing is pure scam. you rent 1 vCPU and people often think this is as good as a real 1 hardware core, while in reality that physical core is being sold twice/three times to different customer. Your 1 vCPU is maybe 0.5-0.75 of a real hardware CPU, perhaps even less, depending on how greedy cloud provider is.
It is almost like instead of driving your own car and making stable car payment - you decide to exclusively use Uber/Lyft to go around. Sounds good if you are in NYC/SF, but not so much outside of these perfect use cases. Also doesn't make sense if your primary job is pizza delivery, all your margins from delivering pizzas will just transfer to ride hailing company.
All of these posts never seem to talk about the operational overheard they're saving by using the cloud. 500k/year is a couple of engineers. And IME, at scale, Elasticsearch is a huge pain to self manage.
Self hosting has become very easy these days. Elasticsearch, specifically was a pain to self manage years ago. With modern versions, it has become incredibly stable, defaults have made more sense, and you now have modern tools like Kubernetes to make deploying/scaling easier too. The work required to self-host has improved in the past decade, and ppl who "default to the cloud" ignore this.
I'm saying this as someone who manages a 50 TB cluster for a startup (which I know isn't a HUGE amount, but definitely not small either)
slt2021|3 years ago
Cloud computing is pure scam. you rent 1 vCPU and people often think this is as good as a real 1 hardware core, while in reality that physical core is being sold twice/three times to different customer. Your 1 vCPU is maybe 0.5-0.75 of a real hardware CPU, perhaps even less, depending on how greedy cloud provider is.
It is almost like instead of driving your own car and making stable car payment - you decide to exclusively use Uber/Lyft to go around. Sounds good if you are in NYC/SF, but not so much outside of these perfect use cases. Also doesn't make sense if your primary job is pizza delivery, all your margins from delivering pizzas will just transfer to ride hailing company.
homarp|3 years ago
see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33257204
turtlebits|3 years ago
altdataseller|3 years ago
I'm saying this as someone who manages a 50 TB cluster for a startup (which I know isn't a HUGE amount, but definitely not small either)
tpetry|3 years ago
DeathArrow|3 years ago