I never understood the password sharing problem. You can have max 4 streams at a time. And people are paying for it. What they do with it is not a concern for Netflix.
They need to either change it to a different unlimited streams but 1 location plan, or create a new higher tier stream anywhere but Max 4 plan
The reason is they want to bundle stream quality to stream quantity to keep squeezing subscription money for features you don't use. I share my account because 4k streaming is locked behind their Premium tier, 4 simultaneous stream account. I pay double the price in order to get 4k streaming. If they don't want me to share my account, I'd be happy with a 4k quality, 1 stream quantity account, at a lower price. They don't want to do that. When they keep the pricing the same and now try to charge me for account sharing, I'll just cancel.
Also why are they even encouraging password sharing? Spotify family plan model makes much more sense, each member of the family plan has their own account with separate login. No more risks of oversharing the password or wondering who changed something.
The reason I share password is just because there's no way to get full-hd (let alone 4K) for a 1 screen plan. I have to pay for 2 screens to get 1080p, and for 4 screen to get 4k. If someone in my family is paying for 4 screens, we should be able to use it with 4 people, right?
Yeah, I keep wondering about this business model choice too. Netflix is the only major streamer left at this point charging for HD and 4K as separate tiers. The other major streamers do sometimes tier on simultaneous screens, and often refer to higher tiers as "family plans".
Netflix is at least unintentionally messaging at this point that "only families want or need higher quality streams" and that is a very weird mixed message in the current streaming market, especially now with their slowly increasingly more hostile messaging that they are tired of people sharing passwords (because the shareholders demand account growth in a saturated market with a much-increased field of competitors).
Totally agree. There should be a cheaper option of one-screen 4K and without the games. I don't understand why I need to pay for the games that I don't want to play.
Haven't subscribed to Netflix for a few years now (issues with their content). What is this about paying for screens? Don't you just have access to their service once you pay for it?
They also allow 5 profiles. I don't know why one person would have more than a single profile.
What the actual plans seems to be is to keep multiple profiles and multiple streams but insist that users of a plan are "in the same household" which is totally nuts and the most cable/broadcast TV way of thinking possible.
Presumably they will fingerprint each client and ensure that these clients are "normally" coming from the same location or even IP. Totally mad, will end in tears .
4k on Netflix isn't worth the additional cost. Only Netfix' own productions are 4k, and the additional resolution is consumed by an excessive amount of artificial film grain.
Their pricing model is problematic for most households. For such a brilliant company I, for the life of me, can’t understand the arguments for not having a single screen, 4k at a lower price type model.
I'll explain it to you. 4k requires relatively expensive equipment and relatively expensive internet connection.
So the reasoning is as follows: What's the average income of people interested in 4k streaming? The answer is "of our subscribers they tend to be on the higher end of the spectrum" then why not upcharge them given that they are in the segment that's both interested and wealthy enough to pay for it.
4k 1 screen would have to be cheaper than the current 4k 4 screens, therefore you'd be losing money because a portion of people in that wealthy segment would be effectively downgrading their plans.
The alternative point of view is "how many people wealthy enough and interested in 4k do not have a Netflix account?" I would assume they probably think most everyone in this segment does have Netflix. These are probably the kind of people that have all streaming services.
If you look at Netflix strategy they're not trying to capture more people from the top; as they already have them. They're trying to capture low income people and so it makes much more sense for them to offer cheaper plans with ads rather than cheaper "premium" plans.
Well, that's one tiny step forward from "you can't share your account because I said so how dare you even think of such a thing you should be cancelled" (not even ranting about Netflix specifically, just all the companies in general that do this).
[+] [-] vsskanth|3 years ago|reply
They need to either change it to a different unlimited streams but 1 location plan, or create a new higher tier stream anywhere but Max 4 plan
[+] [-] joecot|3 years ago|reply
https://help.netflix.com/en/node/24926
[+] [-] kennend3|3 years ago|reply
We have the 4 stream account for myself and my 3 kids. They are all in University and so they dont live at home during most of the school year.
The kids "legal" address is my house, but they login from their school's networks.
Is this "unfair sharing"?
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[+] [-] WorldMaker|3 years ago|reply
Netflix is at least unintentionally messaging at this point that "only families want or need higher quality streams" and that is a very weird mixed message in the current streaming market, especially now with their slowly increasingly more hostile messaging that they are tired of people sharing passwords (because the shareholders demand account growth in a saturated market with a much-increased field of competitors).
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[+] [-] matt-p|3 years ago|reply
What the actual plans seems to be is to keep multiple profiles and multiple streams but insist that users of a plan are "in the same household" which is totally nuts and the most cable/broadcast TV way of thinking possible.
Presumably they will fingerprint each client and ensure that these clients are "normally" coming from the same location or even IP. Totally mad, will end in tears .
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[+] [-] jerojero|3 years ago|reply
So the reasoning is as follows: What's the average income of people interested in 4k streaming? The answer is "of our subscribers they tend to be on the higher end of the spectrum" then why not upcharge them given that they are in the segment that's both interested and wealthy enough to pay for it.
4k 1 screen would have to be cheaper than the current 4k 4 screens, therefore you'd be losing money because a portion of people in that wealthy segment would be effectively downgrading their plans.
The alternative point of view is "how many people wealthy enough and interested in 4k do not have a Netflix account?" I would assume they probably think most everyone in this segment does have Netflix. These are probably the kind of people that have all streaming services.
If you look at Netflix strategy they're not trying to capture more people from the top; as they already have them. They're trying to capture low income people and so it makes much more sense for them to offer cheaper plans with ads rather than cheaper "premium" plans.
Hope that makes sense.
[+] [-] ninju|3 years ago|reply
https://time.com/6223415/netflix-password-sharing-crackdown/
[+] [-] dbttdft|3 years ago|reply
[+] [-] oriettaxx|3 years ago|reply
pathetic!