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Guidii | 3 years ago

The linked article doesn't give a lot of detail on the specific complaints or what you would need to do to make those sites accessible. Do you have any information on that?

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mywittyname|3 years ago

I think the issue is less about the changes they need to make, and more of the spectre of a potential lawsuit.

Lawyers have a distinct upper-hand here because they are doing this in bulk and are probably using this as more of a "side-gig" to fill in extra work hours that they can't otherwise bill to clients. So the opportunity costs for them are pretty low, basically court fees, but the potential earnings are pretty high, since it's probably cheaper to pay out the lawsuit than it would be to hire a lawyer to fight it.

Plus, these are a potentially huge lottery ticket. If the company fails to respond to the lawsuit, a default judgement is issued and who knows how much they could earn from that. So like 4 hours of work for tens of thousands in payouts.

And it's only mom-and-pop companies that suffer. Companies that can afford staff counsel are just going to spend the few hours to become compliant and get the lawsuit dismissed.

Getting sued sucks. You have to quickly come up with a retainer to give your counsel. Probably a few hundred or so to respond to the suit, but after that, five figures isn't unusual. Yeah, you'll get some of that back if you win, but you still have to be able to come up with it at short notice.

iepathos|3 years ago

Most importantly, plaintiffs do not need to prove damages in these accessibility lawsuits in israel, which is an awful desig,. So, these lawyers are likely not even impacted by the websites they are suing.

ryandrake|3 years ago

I have sympathy if your site is fully compliant with the law and you get sued in error, because of some bad automation or something. Now you have to hire a lawyer and eat that cost having done nothing wrong. It would be best if this didn’t happen. But if the law specifically says web videos need captions, and you put web videos up without captions and subsequently get sued… I dunno what to say—Surprised Pikachu Face?

If a web site would rather take their ball and go home rather than comply with the law, we’ll that’s totally their valid option, but nobody is forcing them to do it.

pwinnski|3 years ago

His videos aren't subtitled, and are required to include subtitles.

ortusdux|3 years ago

Upload the videos to a private YouTube channel and then download the autogenerated subtitles?

5e92cb50239222b|3 years ago

What if you used excerpts from Shakespeare for subtitles, regardless of the video's actual content?

anigbrowl|3 years ago

Near the end: unless this requirement is met, there will be a need to add subtitles to all video clips in all of the courses

This doesn't seem like an onerous requirement to me. There is a variety of both commercial and free tools to automate that process, and while it would involve some effort in proofreading and uploading the subtitle data, that represents at most a few days of labor.

alonmln|3 years ago

Not if the videos are in Hebrew. English and other languages have excellent support and tools that less common languages don't.

ergonaught|3 years ago

There was at least one mentioned:

"Given the Israeli accessibility law, the use of the courses on this new website will be limited (up to 500 students). According to the Israeli accessibility law, unless this requirement is met, there will be a need to add subtitles to all video clips in all of the courses that the website includes."

behringer|3 years ago

That is a lot of students. If he's got more than 500 students then he definitely needs to worry about accessibility.

mike_d|3 years ago

The last line mentioned having to caption videos, so I believe this is the accessibility issue.

zackees|3 years ago

Israeli law wants subtitles on all videos.

skywhopper|3 years ago

Sounds like the videos need closed captions. Not a particularly difficult task to add them. It can be frustrating to go back and do this with older content, but captions make the videos accessible to a lot more people. Automated captioning software is also very high quality these days. There’s really no reason not to do it these days.

aerostable_slug|3 years ago

There are also commercial services that use a combination of automation and people fluent in the languages at play that are both very inexpensive and rather quick in terms of turnaround. We've used them for internationalizing training videos and the like as well as subtitling movies — we have to use essentially "airline" edits of movies, and sometimes they don't have the languages we need (e.g. French for Canadian customers).