[jef_leppard]

I bought a System 76 laptop a few years ago and stuff like this is why I went back to Apple. I was always dealing with one weird thing or another. One day it decides it wont wake from sleep if I have it in clamshell mode, another it decides it can't find my bluetooth peripherals. I finally rage quit when my webcam went down for no reason. I spent 2500 bucks on that thing and gave up on it in less than a year. Meanwhile, I have a 2015 MBP that runs like a champ. My new M1 air goes 2 days without a charge and I never have to think about dumb shit like waking from sleep.

Oh and theres the resale value. I can't give away my S76 but I bet you if I put that 2015 MBP up on craigslist, it'll still fetch me a few hundred bucks...

When I was a younger man with more free time I would have fought the good fight but these days? I just want my shit to work.

[qudat]

My mbp (2018) is fairly reliable but there have been more than a few occasions where the laptop doesn’t wake from sleep properly.

My 11th gen framework has actually been more reliable on that front.

My biggest gripes with framework are the battery life and speakers, otherwise arch just worked out of the box for me.

[trelane]

Interesting. That's the polar opposite of my own experience. And I usually put Gentoo on them instead of Pop. They've been rock solid for me since 2013 or so, when I first started with them. And their support has been top notch.