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wallscratch | 3 years ago

Human Revolution was wonderful, but Mankind Divided had such bizarre pacing… I was ~15 hours into Prague, waiting for the transition to the next locale like in all of the other Deus Ex games, and then the story ended… sigh

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cercatrova|3 years ago

That is because the publisher Square Enix forced the developer Eidos Montreal to split Mankind Divided into two games, and then they canceled the second game. Thankfully the IP and developer has been bought by a holding group that actually knows about gaming, Embracer Group.

selfhoster11|3 years ago

Please don’t tell me that you don’t see the irony of the holding group being named “Embracer Group”. It’s literally an antagonist name.

post_break|3 years ago

Human Revolution had one of the best gaming preludes. You had no augmentations, and then you get rocked. The opening credits while you're in surgery, chefs kiss. Obligatory "I never asked for this"

Opening credits: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIqJaT3cvf8

paulmd|3 years ago

> one of the best gaming preludes. You had no augmentations, and then you get rocked. The opening credits while you're in surgery, chefs kiss.

I'm afraid it's been... nine years!

*midge ure plays*

(that's right, you think that's the real bowie you're listening to!?)

cloutchaser|3 years ago

I thought the mankind divided opening was pretty good as well. The terrorist attack really surprised me, and for a few seconds I felt like I was there.

Deus ex is by far my favourite universe, it's such a shame it isn't better developed.

Rodeoclash|3 years ago

I barely made it past the first 20 minutes before giving up for MD. Somehow the experience was wildly different from the HR despite the mechanics being mostly the same.

One thing I think was a big contributing factor to my enjoyment of the first game was the soundtrack. The first time you enter the Sarif Industries building and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAljZX-9HMI starts playing - chills.

Melatonic|3 years ago

I did the same thing - I was very confused at first. Once you orient yourself though in that initial city and get a bit into it then it becomes very very good. I think I may have been playing years after with all the bugs fixed and the DLC's added and whatnot but I thought they killed it with that game. Still hoping we get another!

henriquecm8|3 years ago

I also stop at the tutorial on my first try, then later I tried again, and now I like it more than Human Revolution, it's better in all aspects, except maybe the story for ending abruptly.

ak217|3 years ago

Michael McCann is a genius and deserves way more credit for Deus Ex than he is given, but he was responsible for at least half of the Mankind Divided soundtrack too.

omnibrain|3 years ago

For years I used a playlist of the soundtracks of Deus Ex: HR and the movie Transcendence on shuffle for working on the PC.

yamtaddle|3 years ago

Some of the DLC for Mankind Divided is excellent, though. You should check it out if you haven't.

The worst thing about MD is the stability and bugginess. I recently replayed both, and HR is still (and more-or-less always has been) pretty damn solid.

MD, meanwhile, had intermittent jankiness in the UI including getting itself into states that required a restart to fix, wild swings in framerate, and crashed probably a half-dozen times in my playthrough (which wouldn't be a bad stat for a game in, like, 1999, but is now). I think HR crashed maybe once, but I may be mis-remembering and it was in fact zero times, and that was a much longer play-through.

[EDIT] Oh, one nice touch in MD was how they improved balance on hacking. No more ending the game with 500 pieces of hacking software because it was so easy. No more feeling compelled to hack everything even if you already had a code for it, for the XP. New UI's terrible and (on PC, at least) buggy, though :-(

onli|3 years ago

I played MD recently again, including all the DLCs. It was not unstable or buggy at all. I played under Linux, but am not 100% certain anymore that I played the Linux version and not the Windows version via Proton. In any case, maybe something to test next time you play it.

There is only one DLC I'd call excellent though: A Criminal Past. The others sadly are not great. Desperate Measures might be included now, but is just missing content from the main story, suffering by it being not integrated properly and it saw clearly less design work. System Rift saw even less, it's made cheaply - but not not fun and at least a story of its own. And then there is A Criminal Past, better than some parts of the main game, the only one I'd absolutely recommend.

iammjm|3 years ago

Yeah I've read they planned plenty more but then were pressed to wrap it up asap... still it was a fun game, awesome interior and costume design

paulryanrogers|3 years ago

In their defense the level of fidelity increases costs, and the franchise ownership doesn't seem as committed as to other brands.

Melatonic|3 years ago

Wait - it ends at Prague? I thought that was the first city? I swear there were lots of locations .....

smcl|3 years ago

It does not end in Prague. You leave and come back to Prague a couple of times, each time it’s more locked down and hostile. Finale is weirdly in a convention center in London.

kevingadd|3 years ago

IIRC there are two main hubs and then some throwaway locations. It definitely felt like there was supposed to be more.

terafo|3 years ago

I spent around 45 hours there in my first walkthrough, can imagine how did you beat it so fast, but can't understand why.

guardiangod|3 years ago

Playing Mankind Divided made me not want to visit Prague, ever. I guess in a way the game was well designed.

smcl|3 years ago

Not sure if this will sway you but the entirety of the MD version of Prague is fictional. Překážka doesn’t exist, the main train station doesn’t look like that, Golem City isn’t a thing, there are no oppressive riot police stalking the streets :-)

The things that put me off Prague aren’t in the game, and likely wouldn’t irritate a tourist

ellisv|3 years ago

Did playing HR make you want to visit Detroit?