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Ninjak8051 | 3 years ago

Such pathways require global cooperation and will fail unless all major nations are on board. In particular, Russia is making no effort, and has no incentive or motivation to make any effort due to their vast tundra landscape. Step 1 is to get Russia on board by some means, without Russia any of these goals are senseless.

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ThalesX|3 years ago

> without Russia any of these goals are senseless

This is an absurd take... Russia emits 4.65% of world output and has been decreasing last year the most out of the top 10 [0]. Could you base your arguments? I'd like to understand where this is coming from.

[0] https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-by...

Ninjak8051|3 years ago

Here is what I am basing my arguments on:

https://climateactiontracker.org/countries/russian-federatio...

More generally, if Russia (or any party) has incentive, means, motivation to create climate change, do not be surprised if they actively work to make it happen. Russia can literally light things on fire and come out way ahead.

fulafel|3 years ago

We have a lot of experience in the global system of cajoling outlier countries into a common agreement, it's just stick and carrot. Diplomacy, negotiations over interests, trade deals, etc.

taylodl|3 years ago

If your solution involves Russia getting on board then you've already failed. Russia is actually encouraging climate change because it opens up more shipping in the arctic circle. This is to illustrate that in the short term climate change leads to winners and losers. In the long term we probably all lose, but we're not known for our long term thinking.

hkpack|3 years ago

Not sure why it is downvoted, but Russia is massively on the benefiting side of global warming. It reduces the amount of useless land, and massively increases crops yields throughout its territory.

Geopolitically, it benefits from additional pressure on Europe to accommodate the migrations caused by climate change, and all the instability it causes.