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throwawayacc2 | 3 years ago

Comments like this make me wonder just how divergent peoples outlook on life are.

I’m with the guy you responded too, making a billionaire lose money is way funnier and interesting.

But even in a normal company, I never really understood this loyalty/ethics thing.

To me, it makes sense to do the very, very bear minimum and “steal” as much time as possible. So you can use it for your self.

A job is you selling time to someone else. It’s simply incomprehensible to me someone would willingly give extra of their time. Equally not attempted to claw back as much as their time as possible.

I suppose there’s an element of game theory, there are points in time where it’s worth to go that extra mile to achieve something that will put you in a better position, but those are the exceptions not the rule.

Not judging you, I’m glad people like you are out there. My life is better due to people like you and I am thankful for that. But, yeah, I guess I’m just fascinated at the differences in outlook.

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dustedcodes|3 years ago

When you ask you accountant to do your accounts so you don't get hugely screwed by the tax man then you expect/hope that they will do their best work in your interest.

When you go to the dentist and need a broken tooth fixed you hope the dentist will take an extra 15 minutes if it means your fixed tooth will look as straight and nice as possible, even if they could have fixed the core issue in a much faster way and leave you with an aesthetically unpleasant looking tooth.

When you send your children to school you hope that teachers would sacrifice time from their own lunch break if your kid has one more question just before the break so they don't fail the next exam.

If you live in America you probably hope that the person who guards the gate to your child's school would wait an extra 20 minutes if the new guard is slightly late so no crazy gunman could just walk in unchallenged and gun down your child.

When your parents end up frail and end up requiring social care you'd hope that the people looking after them would not just do the "bare minimum and steal as much time as possible for their own benefit" and rather take pride and care when looking after them.

All those people also hope that if you work on a product that serves a public interest that you will do your utmost best to return the favour so everyone can live in a nice society.

Tronno|3 years ago

People do their utmost because of mutual respect, and because of the expectation of conducting repeat business - not because of honor.

Try telling your elderly parents' social worker you want to gauge their performance, because you're shopping around for someone new, and only A-players are acceptable. Then watch how much care and kindness your parents receive out of honor alone.

Going above the call of duty for "honor" is not a virtue. It's being a doormat.

rajamaka|3 years ago

I think you are over dramatizing the importance of Twitter just a bit here

freejazz|3 years ago

That's why people consider those real jobs and think people who work at Twitter should not complain about anything. I'm not saying they are right, but I don't think you made your point at all.

nverno|3 years ago

But you must understand taking pride in your work. I don't know if I'd have called it honorable, but there is certainly no honor in sneakily doing shitty work on purpose. I wouldn't write software if it didn't give me satisfaction, and doing a shitty job is never satisfying.

concordDance|3 years ago

Sure,don't be loyal to the company. But loyalty to individuals who work there and your end users? That I think is important.

bruiseralmighty|3 years ago

Poster didn't even talk about giving additional time, just faithfully fulfilling their end of the employment contract. It's bare minimum respect to your coworkers and clients/users to care about your work and make it as polished as you can.

A mentality of doing as little as possible makes life harder for the people around you as well. Twitter is low-stakes; no one will die due to some developer slacking off, but if you don't want to participate, then the least you can do is leave.