[AlmostAnyone]

How do you maintain waterproofness without glue? Not just water resistance - I mean actually having the device survive having it in pocket and swimming with it.

[simion314]

Question, if the glue is there for your purpose you guessed then why is Apple not covering water and liquid damage ? https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204104

The glue must be there for other reasons and probably you should not swim with your phone.

[sokoloff]

Agree that you shouldn’t swim with your phone, but Apple not covering liquid damage is a business decision that doesn’t tell me whether the glue and gaskets serve a valid waterproofing purpose.

As someone who has replaced several batteries, I take pains to make sure I put new glue/sticky gaskets back in place when I do it and I do that for waterproofing not to protect Apple’s business.

[AlmostAnyone]

I don't care about Apple. I use phones that are rated waterproof - because I am going to swim with it.

I even successfully applied warranty few times (Sony and Samsung) when a phone got fucked this way, since the glue wasn't applied properly. New phone for me, yay.

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

What if I don't care about water proofing? Should all phones be glued just because a very small minority of users actually want waterproofing?

I don't see why there can't just be a separate market segment for people who are willing to sacrifice some ease of repair for ruggedness.

[olalonde]

You are allowed to have different preferences, which is what a free market is all about. Right to repair regulations threaten that free market.

[AlmostAnyone]

Sure thing, but don't make waterproofing impossible in your fight for right to repair, please.

[scarface74]

If the premise behind right go repair is partially to increase the longevity of your device and prevent ewaste, water resistance is part of that.

[thereddaikon]

The same way you do with anything else that's waterproof and has removable batteries....You have a small rubber gasket.

[AlmostAnyone]

Could you give some examples of these things, please? All waterproof hardware I have ever owned (phones, cameras, flashlights, watches, etc) doesn't have user-replaceable batteries. In all cases the batteries need to be replaced by a specialized shop and the waterproofness is tested afterwards in a special machine - and it's not always a success and the job needs to be redone.

Note that there is a significant difference between "water resistance" and "waterproofness".

[izacus]

The same way those same manufacturers did when they still built phones with replaceable batteries, headphone jacks and SIM slots.

[AlmostAnyone]

I don't recall any of these phones being waterproof. The first waterproof phone I've had was Sony Xperia Z and that was glued.

[1970-01-01]

With a sealing ring or gasket. Many patents for this concept exist:

https://patents.google.com/?q=G04B39%2f02

[waynesonfire]

Gaskets? I'm not an iPhone repair shop but previous posts suggest it is a gasket with light adhesive.

[rasz]

screws and gaskets